In this episode, Dr. Lloyd Glauberman shares his journey into psychology and hypnotherapy, discussing the importance of sleep, the obesity epidemic, and introduces the concept of lifestyle intelligence. He emphasizes the need for tailored approaches to behavior change and the innovative tools available for personal development, including his app that combines storytelling and hypnosis.

Connect with Dr. Glauberman through his website and you can download his app on the Apple store with a free 30 day trial.

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Takeaways

Hypnosis is a common state we experience daily, often without realizing it.

Sleep is crucial for cognitive function and emotional regulation.

The obesity epidemic is influenced by lifestyle choices and sleep deprivation.

Lifestyle intelligence is about understanding and improving our health behaviors.

Self-esteem has shifted from real-life interactions to social media validation.

Hypnosis can be effective when tailored to individual needs.

The brain cleans itself during sleep, highlighting its importance for health.

Healthy behavior skills should be integrated into early education.

Show Transcript

Cheryl McColgan (00:01.038)Hi everyone, welcome to the Heal and Nourish Grow podcast. Today I am joined by Dr. Lloyd Globberman, but he has generously said that I should call him Lloyd during the show. but just so you know, he is a doctor. Of course you heard that in his official bio, but Lloyd, I'd really love if you could share with the audience now, just in your own words, what got you into this line of work and what got you interested in helping people with their health and wellness?

Lloyd Glauberman (00:25.712)I stumbled into the profession of psychology after I graduated from college. And at the time, in addition to being in college, I played drums in a rock and roll band. And like everybody else, I wanted to be a rock star. However, as the fact that we're talking right now just lets everybody know that never happened. So I had to figure out something else. And it was during that time when Vietnam War was still in.

Cheryl McColgan (00:39.82)Of course!

Cheryl McColgan (00:46.606)you

Lloyd Glauberman (00:55.322)in play and the only way to avoid being involved with that in an appropriate fashion was to work for the government in the health professions in some kind of way. And I stumbled across a job at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center, which was a psychiatric facility for residents of Harvard. So it was an up-tempo, really smart bunch of folks kind of thing. And so I walked in, off the street,

went upstairs to the person who was in charge of personnel and I said, you by chance don't have any jobs available, do you? For people who might want to begin a career. And they said, did you graduate college? And I said, yeah, seven days ago. They said, fine. When can you start? What? do mean, when can I start? I'm not even sitting down in your office. I said, are you actually hiring me right now? She said,

Yeah, you look like you can do the job. Monday. Okay. That started my career, that bizarre set of circumstances. So I get there and I am now a psychiatric aid helping deal with and support people who have severe emotional problems, obviously, because they've been hospitalized. And I was getting very nice feedback from the staff, from the nurses who had been there for decades, from the psychiatric residents. said, you know, you should go into the business. Hence.

I did. I started applying to graduate school. I got married early. My wife and I moved to California and I bumbled and stumbled through the whole process and finally got my doctorate from Syracuse in 1976. Came to New York, took the licensing exam and here we are decades later and I'm still involved in the business and it's still enjoyable even though I'm a new

Cheryl McColgan (02:48.13)That's an amazing story. it's funny actually how much we have in common because people that have listened to the podcast before might know that my background is in psychology. And I did go to graduate school for psychology as well, but I did not finish, unlike you. And also wanted to be a rock star, played the saxophone for many years.

Lloyd Glauberman (03:06.132)Well, we have a lot in common. Welcome to those who didn't make it.

Cheryl McColgan (03:14.478)What a wild and wonderful world of health and wellness. But I think obviously the fact that you're still excited about it and still coming out with new things even further along in your career is really amazing. And one of the things that caught my eye when your team reached out was that you also work with hypnotherapy. And that's something, a topic that I've never covered on the show before. It's not something that I've ever really looked deeply into.

Lloyd Glauberman (03:35.529)Yes.

Cheryl McColgan (03:42.07)other than the old movies where the guys wavin' the clock in front of the face or something. That is about the extent of my knowledge. So I'd love it if you would just share with me and the audience what exactly is hypnotherapy and then how have you been using it to help people change their behaviors?

Lloyd Glauberman (03:58.226)In a variety of different ways, I'll go through my own understanding of it. mean, hypnosis is one of those magical terms, right? I mean, when you say somebody is in hypnotherapy as opposed to psychotherapy, like I'm doing CBT, you know, I'm doing hypnosis, ooh, you get that kind of thing. People don't realize that trance is something that we are in and out of all day long.

But because it's so commonplace and we're so used to it, we don't call it hypnosis. We just call it, for instance, daydreaming. Have you ever been in a really deep daydream when somebody's calling your name one, two, three times and you finally hear it and go, realize they had called you by your name three times and you didn't hear it? That's a hypnotic trance state, but it's not called that.

Cheryl McColgan (04:50.348)Absolutely.

Lloyd Glauberman (04:56.018)Then, because nobody's talking to you to go deeper and deeper, you're just doing it on your own, right? People don't realize how much life is in and out of trance. Another commonplace experience, you're listening to music and suddenly a tune pops up from your high school years, one of your favorite years, right? And suddenly your mind kind of goes back in time and is beginning to relive that moment. In hypnosis,

That's called age regression. But when you're listening to it by yourself, you don't call it anything, you're just in the past and enjoying that moment of thinking about something that occurred back. All of those experiences that occur in hypnosis are wired into us and occur all the time. We're little bits and pieces of audio voices in our head floating in and out of consciousness. And sometimes we don't realize that it's happening. The next thing…

We're feeling kind of strange because we didn't notice that we started talking to ourselves and denigrating ourselves because other things are going on. You didn't pay much attention. All of that is a self hypnotic thing. So, so much of hypnosis is experiences that we're having, but because it doesn't have the aura of somebody on stage telling somebody to bark like a dog, you know what I mean? And then doing it, right? Cause we think about it, mind control, power and that kind of thing. It's not like hypnosis.

can't be useful, of course it can be, but it has to be understood in the context of everything else that goes on in our minds. These are skills that we all have, but we don't know that. So the whole idea is to generate ways to introduce information to people so they will somehow store it and use it. One of the more interesting ways of doing hypnosis is called conversational hypnosis.

Cheryl McColgan (06:37.23)Yeah.

Lloyd Glauberman (06:53.936)It's you're talking to somebody and you'll be talking at a certain pace like I'm talking right now. And then you'll pause and speak a little bit slower and say a few words about how wouldn't it be interesting to be able to solve that problem that you're having. And maybe some point you got that change in pace and noticing how words get marked out. Anybody who does hypnosis really well knows how to mark out words to the listener.

in a way that tends not to bring attention to them. Because the whole idea is get around the conscious mind so you can hear things without knowing it, so you can respond in a positive way at the right times, in the right places, and with the right people. So some people who are hearing people. Yeah, yeah, we know more than we realize.

Cheryl McColgan (07:40.248)Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And it's a description that's not as woo woo as I would have expected. And one question to clarify something that you said earlier before we kind of move on with, you know, how you use that to help people. Cause I do have a couple of questions around that, but the thing that came to mind when you were describing how we all may have experienced this before or have this skill. it, so I think a lot of people that listen to this might be familiar with kind of flow state, like artists and

Lloyd Glauberman (07:47.058)It's alright.

Cheryl McColgan (08:09.898)sports people and golfers and that kind of thing. When you were describing that, I immediately thought of flow state because you're kind of in a subconscious state for lack of a better term. Maybe you can describe it better. Would you say that that's similar to hypnosis or is that sort of a different phenomenon?

Lloyd Glauberman (08:28.34)That's a very productive trance state. You're not in everyday consciousness. Your focus is completely different and it's focused on one particular set of skills or data, visual data that you're dealing with, or auditory data, right? And yeah, that's a very productive self,