Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt catch up with Unbound winner and former World Tour rider Ian Boswell. Here about the crash that changed his path, what he thinks would happen if Wout Van Aert took up gravel riding and where he sees the sport changing in the future.

Bobby and Jens is a Velonews production in association with Shocked Giraffe. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.