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Today - Couples all around Britain are being asked to make tough decisions. Apart or together, the Health Secretary's advice is clear: "make your choice and stick with it." We speak to one couple in the middle of a divorce in isolation together, and one couple very much in love but separated by coronavirus (and an ocean). 

Guests:

Steph (a nurse in Chicago treating coronavirus patients) and Katie (a tech consultant from London) .

Kenny (a former journalist now in PR) and Helen (a business coach), both living in Wales.

Host: Manveen Rana.

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