Do you feel like you’re never good enough? Livia Sara and Wouter Kleinsman both know what it’s like to chase illusory fulfillment through external identities. In this confrontational conversation, Livia and Wouter discuss how labels imprison us, why conformity is a trap, and how the story you tell yourself is the story that narrates your life.

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Connect with Livia: https://livlabelfree.com

Connect with Wouter: https://www.wouterkleinsman.nl/