Kathryn welcomes back Marcus Kain for a thoughtful conversation about the increasing use of GLP-1 medications (like Ozempic and Wegovy) in the context of binge eating recovery and weight loss. They discuss the significant risks—especially for those with a history of restrictive eating—while also acknowledging that some individuals have experienced benefits when these medications are used cautiously under medical supervision.

This episode is not to provide medical advice or promote the use of any medication; it’s an honest, nuanced discussion about a complex and evolving topic. Kathryn and Marcus hold space for differing perspectives and emphasize that full recovery is absolutely possible and unique to each individual.

Episodes mentioned on this show:

Ep. 131: Ozempic and Eating Disorders with Robyn Goldberg RDN, CEDS-C

Ep. 90: Letting Go of Unrealistic Recovery Goals and Unhealthy Fitness Standards (with Marcus Kain) Ep. 119: How Does Fitness Fit Into Recovery? (with Marcus Kain) Ep. 167: Healthy Goal Setting and Sustainable Change in the New Year (with Marcus Kain)

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StrongNotStarving.com Instagram: @strongnotstarving Strong Not Starving podcast

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Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn answers listener questions about the intersection of binge eating recovery and relationships—whether that’s your relationship with yourself, romantic partners, friends, or family. Thank you to everyone who submitted questions—your vulnerability, curiosity, and willingness to contribute are deeply appreciated.

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Parts 1-3 of this series:Ep. 171: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part I) Ep. 175: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part II) Ep. 179: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part III)

Episodes mentioned in this show:Episode 39: Q&A: Emotional Attachment to Binge Eating Episode 46: Q&A: How Do I Stay Binge-Free on Vacation or on a Holiday? Ep. 134: Recovery in Emotionally Challenging Times (with Coach Julie) Ep. 151: Emotional Not Eating Ep. 168: My Take: Using Mel Robbins’ “Let Them” Theory to Help You Stop Binge Eating and Break Other Harmful Habits Ep. 181: You Do Care and You Do Deserve Recovery (with Coach Julie)

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Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

During urges to binge you may find yourself thinking “I don’t care anymore,” or “It doesn’t matter,” or “I deserve this binge”—as if binge eating is a reward. You might also hear the false message that you “don’t deserve recovery.” These are common thoughts that perpetuate so many cases of binge eating and other harmful habits and addictions. In this episode, Kathyrn and Coach Julie help you learn how to recognize these thoughts, understand them, and stop giving them value and attention. You’ll also learn how to reconnect with the deeper truth that you do care and that you do deserve to fully recover.

Episode mentioned in this show:Episode 38: Q&A: Binge Eating as a Form of Self-Punishment

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Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn is joined by Dr. Paula Freedman-Diamond, PsyD, to talk about the intersection between eating disorders and ADHD, and how these challenges often overlap. Dr. Paula explains how people with ADHD/neurodivergence may struggle to recognize hunger and fullness cues and offers practical tips for making recovery work. She encourages self-acceptance and working with your unique brain, not against it. Dr. Paula also discusses the topic of perfectionism and toxic striving in our culture, how it fuels disordered eating, and strategies for overcoming it.

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Dr. Paula’s resources:Toxic Striving: Why Hustle and Wellness Culture Are Leaving Us Anxious, Stressed, and Burned Out―and How to Break Free HumanKind Psychological Services Dr. Paula on Instagram (@mindfuldrpaula)

Brain over Binge resources:

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Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

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Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn shares how to grow or rebuild connections in your life during and after recovery from binge eating. You’ll learn strategies for reconnecting with yourself and others in safe, manageable ways once you are no longer devoting so much time and energy to the eating disorder. Kathryn also guides you toward navigating shifts that may occur in relationships as a result of the positive changes you make in recovery. This episode offers practical support for rediscovering who you are without the eating disorder and learning to care for yourself and others in an authentic way.

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Episodes mentioned in this show:Ep. 171: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part I) Ep. 175: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part II) Ep. 105: Taking in the Good (in Recovery)

Brain over Binge resources:

Get the FREE 30-day Inspiration Booklet (this also signs you up for my email list)

Get personalized support in one-on-one coaching or group coaching

Subscribe to the Brain over Binge Course for only $18.99 per month

Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn and coach Julie help you reframe how you think about recovery. You’ll learn to challenge the belief that stopping binge eating is a hard road and see that ending this destructive habit is actually the easy path. Ease never comes from giving in to urges to binge, or trying to control weight through restriction, but from nourishing your body, accepting your natural weight, and letting go of the binge-restrict cycle. Even if there are some challenging and uncomfortable moments in recovery, it’s never as hard as bingeing.

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Brain over Binge resources:

Get the FREE 30-day Inspiration Booklet

Get personalized support with one-on-one coaching or group coaching

Subscribe to the Brain over Binge Course for only $18.99 per month

Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn introduces the Brain over Binge Podcast Guide—a simple, indexed PDF that organizes all of the episodes so far into 85+ recovery topics like restriction, body image, motivation, weight, overeating and more. Whether you’re new or want to easily revisit relevant episodes, the guide is a practical tool designed to help you make the most out of the podcast.

Get the Podcast Guide for only $2.99

Brain over Binge resources:

Get the FREE 30-day Inspiration Booklet

Get personalized support with one-on-one coaching or group coaching

Subscribe to the Brain over Binge Course for only $18.99 per month

Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

Kathryn and Coach Julie talk about the idea of “eating foods you love that love you back.” This is a phrase that Julie has used here on the podcast and that she often uses as a framework in coaching as she helps people learn to eat adequately. We’ll talk about many ways to interpret this concept and how you can apply it in your own life.

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Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide 

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

This is Part II of a series about healing your relationships with food, yourself, and others (listen to Part I here). Kathryn will help you explore your own unique patterns as far as how your relationship with food has affected your other relationships. This applies even after recovery. You’ll also learn to separate relationship issues, as much as possible, from your ability to recover. Last, you’ll see how recovery can give you the brain space, energy, and time to start building relationships skills and healing this area of your life.

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Episodes mentioned in this show:Ep. 171: Healing Your Relationship with Food, Yourself, and Others (Part I) Ep. 144: Eating Disorders and Narcissistic Relationships

More Brain over Binge resources:

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Subscribe to the Brain over Binge Course for only $18.99 per month

Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.

A binge-free life is created by dismissing one binge urge at a time, and by eating adequately one meal/snack at a time. This requires consistency. Although the decision to stop bingeing can be instantaneous, healing of the body and brain from this habit takes time. If you’re someone who tends to do well for a little while just to slip back into old behaviors, or if you want to prevent that from happening, this episode is going to be useful to you.

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Episode mentioned in this show:Ep. 152: No Matter What

Brain over Binge resources:

Get personalized support with one-on-one coaching or group coaching

Subscribe to the Brain over Binge Course for only $18.99 per month

Get the Second Edition of Brain over Binge on Amazon and Audible, BarnesandNoble.com, Apple iBooks, or Kobo.

Get the Brain over Binge Recovery Guide

Disclaimer: *The Brain over Binge Podcast is produced and recorded by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC. All work is copyrighted by Brain over Binge Recovery Coaching, LLC, and all rights are reserved. As a disclaimer, the hosts of the Brain over Binge Podcast are not professional counselors or licensed healthcare providers, and this podcast is not a substitute for medical advice or any form of professional therapy. Eating disorders can have serious health consequences and you are strongly advised to seek medical attention for matters relating to your health. Please get help when you need it, and good luck on your journey.