Joscha Bach, Cognitive Scientist and AI researcher, as well as Anthony Aguirre, UCSC Professor of Physics, join us to explore the world through the lens of computation and the difficulties we face on the way to beneficial futures.

 Topics discussed in this episode include:

-Understanding the universe through digital physics

-How human consciousness operates and is structured

-The path to aligned AGI and bottlenecks to beneficial futures

-Incentive structures and collective coordination

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Timestamps: 

0:00 Intro

3:17 What is truth and knowledge?

11:39 What is subjectivity and objectivity?

14:32 What is the universe ultimately?

19:22 Is the universe a cellular automaton? Is the universe ultimately digital or analogue?

24:05 Hilbert's hotel from the point of view of computation

35:18 Seeing the world as a fractal

38:48 Describing human consciousness

51:10 Meaning, purpose, and harvesting negentropy

55:08 The path to aligned AGI

57:37 Bottlenecks to beneficial futures and existential security

1:06:53 A future with one, several, or many AGI systems? How do we maintain appropriate incentive structures?

1:19:39 Non-duality and collective coordination

1:22:53 What difficulties are there for an idealist worldview that involves computation?

1:27:20 Which features of mind and consciousness are necessarily coupled and which aren't?

1:36:40 Joscha's final thoughts on AGI

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