Kaila Yu has lived, okay? Like, seriously—bands, raves, modeling, drugs, pinup covers, and now… a book. She’s 11 years sober and somehow survived all of that without ending up in a Behind the Music cautionary tale. Her new book Fetishized is about the fetishization of Asian women, but our chat also hits on strict parents, terrible boyfriends, ecstasy that felt like God, and why cocaine basically turns you into an evil gremlin. We laughed a lot, we gasped a little, and we celebrated sobriety a whole bunch.

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The book: Fetishized: A Reckoning with Yellow Fever, Feminism, and Beauty out now