This week I'm talking to Celeste Yvonne, author of It's Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture, and I have to tell you — I kept saying "same" out loud while reading her Scary Mommy interview. Celeste grew up watching her dad's Nicolas Cage-level alcoholism and figured as long as she wasn't that, she was fine. Meanwhile, she's hiding bottles and white-knuckling through bedtime. We get into gray area drinking, the lie that is "mommy needs wine," and why online recovery meetings have been a game-changer for moms who can barely get to the bathroom alone. If you've ever thought your drinking doesn't count because it doesn't look like the movies, this one's for you.

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This week on Drunk-ish, my friend Kim Evey comes back for a do-over—because last time she was on in 2025, she wasn’t fully telling the story. We talk about what relapse can look like when you’re still saying the right things, still showing up… and quietly sliding into secrecy anyway. Kim gets brutally honest about perfectionism, shame, “sneaky” addiction brain, and how the smallest little off-ramps (skipping meetings, ditching meditation, isolating, even a video game spiral) can add up fast. Plus: pills, gummies, Ambien-hunting, and the moment her kid said, “You’re acting weird.”

I’m joined this week by Sara Kaufman Bradstreet, creator of No More Wasted Days, and honestly we could’ve titled this episode: The Nobel Prize in Making Rules You’ll Break By Tuesday. Sara and I talk binge drinking, brownouts, the fantasy of “I’ll only drink wine and beer,” and the oddly romantic chaos of being drinking partners—until one of you ruins the party by quitting. We also get into her Beachbody era where “I drink beer” was basically a brand pillar and what it’s like to go from alcohol-free to fully substance-free.

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Catherine Gray, best selling author of The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober, is here to talk about her new book Little Addictions, and let me tell you, this one hit close to home. We're talking about all the stuff we do too much of—phones, sugar, procrastination, people-pleasing—basically everything except drinking, which we've already quit. Catherine explains why her journalism friends literally coined the phrase "got Cath'd last night" because of how drunk she'd get, how she ended up topless in a hot tub at a work Christmas party, and why she now obsesses over peppermint tea instead of wine. Funny, relatable, and weirdly comforting.

Little Addictions, is out today (Feb 10th) anywhere you get books. 

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This week I'm talking with my friend Vicki Moser about anxiety, complicated childhoods, and how sobriety helped her rewrite the story she'd been telling herself for decades. Vicki shares what it was like growing up painfully shy, caring for her sick mom while still a teenager, and eventually finding herself drinking to cope with all of it. We get into the messy middle of recovery, the freedom that comes from owning our mistakes with our kids, and why "powerful, courageous, sober woman" is the only story she's telling now. Plus, we bond over good hair and no bras on Zoom. You know, the important stuff.

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This week I’m talking with Colleen Saldana, a therapist at a recovery center who somehow manages to be both deeply wise and extremely relatable. Colleen got sober at 21, relapsed at 38, and tells the whole “I’ll just have one margarita” story in a way that will make you laugh… and also clutch your water bottle tighter. We get into growing up around alcohol, anxiety, an eating disorder, the way addiction plays the long game, and what finally helped (detox, sober living, sponsorship, and doing the actual program). It’s a big, hopeful, been-there conversation. 

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I love this episode because Danielle Mercier is basically a walking cautionary tale and a motivational poster at the same time. We get into her early “party girl” years, her brief era of thinking Las Vegas was a wholesome alternative to LA (amazing logic), and the moment her drinking finally caught up with her in the most dramatic way possible. From there, Danielle talks about getting sober, finding her people in 12-Step, and building a life so full she actually likes herself now—which is kind of the whole point, right? Also: cocaine on a soap opera set. You’re welcome.

We’re back with Margot Rose for Part Two where Margot takes us somewhere heartbreaking and profound—family, divorce, regret, and the kind of loss that changes the shape of your whole life. We talk about what sobriety looks like when the “easy button” doesn’t exist, how shame can shove people out of the rooms, and why sometimes you do what you have to do just to get through the day. And then—hope: the promise she made, the art she created, and what it means to keep showing up.

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I’m with Margot Rose this week, and let’s just say: if you’ve ever wanted a sobriety parade, you’re among friends. Margot and I go way back—16 years back—and we revisit the era when I was… not exactly a delight in sober spaces, and she was the rock-and-roll, sharp-edged voice I desperately needed. We talk Staten Island Ferry busking, the “white wine and coke” cocktail (please don’t), quitting cocaine but keeping the drinking going, and the extremely slippery slope of meds that are technically “as directed.” Also: we split her story—come back for Part Two. 


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Tamara Mello is back (again… third? fourth? who’s counting), and I’m thrilled because she just hit three years sober with a January 2 sobriety date — which makes this time of year feel extra real. We talk about why “just moderate” can feel like a full-time job, why taking drinking off the table can weirdly bring relief, and how the holidays can either break you… or show you what you’re made of. Plus: sober parties, social anxiety, accidentally sipping the wrong drink, and why drunk people get louder while everyone gets less interesting.

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