Bobby and Jens sit down with their former teammate and Eurosport commentator Karsten Kroon. Here his views on his compatriot Tom Dumoulin, racing his dad up an iconic Tour de France climb, life in the commentary box and what changes he'd make to the sport.

This episode of Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velonews. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.