Trigger warning: addiction and alcohol talk ahead! Liz and Jamie start with a lighthearted chat about alcohol preferences (spoiler: we’re sober during this podcast, but we’re not necessarily sober in life) before sharing a retrospective on their alcohol-fueled, not-so-great life choices. From there, it’s the deeper stuff: alcohol is a toxin, alcohol and histamine, alcohol and detox, alcohol and hormones, and getting honest about dysfunctional drinking behavior.

We’re not experts and don’t pretend to be! There are many ways to have this conversation, and this is ours. If you or someone you know is struggling with alcohol or substance abuse, see the appropriate professionals! 

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