*This episode includes conversations about Purity Culture, sex and the AIDS crisis and is considered 18+ in content. Please use discretion when listening.*

I never thought in a million years that I would be making an episode on Life After MLM about sex, but when Pastor Rob reached out to me to agree with my takes on the dangers of Purity Culture and how he can use the bible to prove it, I jumped at the chance. I mean sex is the only reason any of us are here, and to demonize it and twist scripture to fit this odd narrative to control women for the sake of men's needs seems culty and gross. This episode is for anyone who was ever shamed just for being human and having sexual wants and desires outside of what "society" deemed appropriate.

Show Notes

Purity Culture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_culture

I Kissed Dating Goodbye - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Kissed_Dating_Goodbye

Song of Songs KJV - https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=2578814

Song of Songs Modern Translation - https://www.leonard-ng.com/song-of-songs/

Who is Ryan White? - https://ryanwhite.hrsa.gov/about/ryan-white

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

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If you know your LuLaHistory you know Courtney Harwood, the first "mentor" to leave featured in both LuLaRich and the Vice Documentary. A sit down with Courtney is probably one of my most requested interviews and it wasn't until recently that we could really find the time to make that happen. It's been almost 2 years since LuLaRich dropped and I wanted to catch up, put some rumors to rest, get the tea that was TOO HOT for Amazon and see what she was up to. And in TRUE Courtney fashion, she did NOT disappoint.

Show Notes

How LuLaRoe Pressured their Sellers into Surgery - https://www.realself.com/news/lularich-courtney-harwood-lularoe-plastic-surgery

Pruvit Ketones Review - https://illuminatelabs.org/blogs/health/pruvit-ketones-review

Purvit Sued over Flavoring - https://behindmlm.com/companies/lacore-enterprises/pruvit-sued-for-use-of-petrochemical-derived-flavoring/

EPA v. Pruvit - https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/prop65/complaints/2020-01339C6410.pdf

Colorectal Cancer Screenings - https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/basic_info/screening/index.htm

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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As a self proclaimed "MLM Addict in Recovery", Cindy Adams has jumped through a lot of hoops in the name of Boss Babery. From attending to many in-home parties to count, to traveling internationally across the country, she's made a lot of Hunbot level choices. So when she reached out with a story about almost getting roped into Amway as a teen, (and that's just the beginning!) I knew we had to chat. Cindy brings the shock, the cringe and the belly laughs as we recount her time in MLM.

Show Notes

My Fave MLM Dupes : https://amzn.to/44XVt6w

Trump v. ACN - https://www.courthousenews.com/pyramid-scheme-lawsuit-drops-claims-against-trump-children/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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*Content Warning : This episode talks about The No Name Fellowship and discusses the death of a child, among other cult abuses. Please use discretion when listening.*

Shortly after Stacey's episode came out I got an email from another survivor of the "No Name Fellowship" who had even more to add to the story. With very little information about this group out there, any additional pieces to the puzzle would be helpful in understanding the complex cult; but I did NOT expect what was waiting for me on the other side of the microphone, and how an hour long chat added even more pieces to other puzzles we've been working on. My conversation with Jordan was filled with eye opening confessions, WTF moments and lots of (not at all silent) laughter.

Show Notes

Life After MLM Merch!! - https://www.bonfire.com/store/life-after-mlm/

Knowledge Fight - https://knowledgefight.com/

Erica Lafferty's GoFundMe - https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lafferty-beat-lymphoma-survivorssurvive

Alex Jones's Bankruptcy - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/alex-jones-bankruptcy.html

No Name Fellowship - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship.html

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Have you ever heard a Hun proclaim they owned their own business, with silently screaming inside that joining an MLM isn't the same thing as being a business owner? Have you ever been curious about some of the less obvious things a real small business owner would be concerned about that might never cross the mind of someone in an MLM? Well you're in luck! Olivia is an internal auditor by trade, who also fell prey to an MLM and quickly saw how the scam can pull you in. Now she runs a successful business of her own and wanted to talk about the real differences between being your own boss and being The Boss.

Show Notes

FTC vs BINT - https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/07/operators-blessing-loom-scheme-banned-multi-level-marketing-result-pyramid-scheme-charges-brought

Connect with Olivia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-whipple-07009118/

Celeb's LOVE S&D! They're just like us! - https://people.com/style/ruth-bader-ginsburg-stella-dot-necklace-kardashians/

RBG's Necklace is a Stella & Dot gift - https://www.jckonline.com/editorial-article/ruth-bader-ginsburgs-collar-stella/

The Audit Library - https://theauditlibrary.com/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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A couple months ago, Russ came to me with an idea I fully supported; attending a motivational coaching seminar with a starry-eyed friend to keep him safe from being scammed. Spending a good chunk of change on the largest VIP ticket, he agreed to keep his eyes peeled, take notes and report back, but Russ's expectation verses his reality were two entirely different things.

Show Notes

Aspire Tour - https://www.aspiretour.com/home

Aspire Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/aspiretour/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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*Content Warning: This episode deals with Medical Child Abuse, including examples and descriptions of actual abuse in MbP cases. Please use caution when listening.*

In continuing our education into the exploitation of children, I invited my friend Andrea Dunlop on the show to open up the conversation about Medical Child Abuse. Andrea is the host of the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me which deals in the victims stories and education surrounding "Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another" or as it's more commonly known, Munchausen by Proxy. In our chat we cover the red flags to keep your eyes on, the statistics revolving around this heinous female violence, and it's crossovers into MLM scams.

Show Notes

Follow Andrea! - Website | Instagram | Patreon | LinkTree

Nobody Should Believe Me Season 2 OUT NOW! - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188

Munchausen Support - https://www.munchausensupport.com/

We Came Here to Forget - https://amzn.to/3K2uw9h

American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children - https://www.apsac.org/

Mommy Dead and Dearest - https://amzn.to/3rr4Vk6

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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*Content Warning : This episode deals with heavy topics such as religious trauma, mentions of child abuse, trafficking and SA allegations, and domestic violence. Please use caution when listening.*

Nikieta and Asha were both members of ICOC, or The International Churches of Christ - a dangerous religious cult with ties to child abuse and running a religious pyramid scheme. Both were young women entering college when they were recruited just 8 years apart, in eerily similar stories. Now on the other side of deconstruction, they are working though religious trauma, finding themselves again and surprisingly owe the eye opening realization to a familiar cause.

Show Notes

Follow Nikieta - Website | Instagram | TikTok | YouTube

Follow Asha - Website | Instagram

ICOC Rolling Stone Article - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/international-churches-of-christ-cult-sexual-abuse-indoctrination-pyramid-scheme-lawsuit-1234654868/

Naked Pastor - https://nakedpastor.com/

Sounds Like MLM - https://www.facebook.com/groups/486766362100200

Kip McKean - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_McKean

Church leaders concealed sexual abuse of young children, lawsuits allege - https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-28/church-sexual-abuse-allegations

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Sarah joined Scentsy because she wanted a family vacation, and somehow found herself in the owner's direct downline, without much help or guidance. As Sarah climbed the ranks to SuperStar Consultant she started to noticed something fishy, consultants breaking the rules, out spending each other on stock, buying ranks, and literally faking it until they make it. When she experiences some huge life changes, Sarah throws herself into Scentsy, and spirals into the darkest time of her life.

Show Notes

/r AntiMLM : Scentsy - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/hpacfz/scentsy_is_an_mlm/

The Sam Dee -Scentsy Exposed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZskI2au10jY

Tiff's Scentsy Shenanigans - https://mlmtruth.org/2017/12/21/tiffs-scentsy-shenanigans-my-mlm-experience/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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In the Amazon Prime Video DocuSeries Shiny Happy People we meet Tara and Floyd Oathout, two former homeschoolers whose love story started in the electronics section at Walmart. I was instantly charmed by their sarcastic wit and loving banter and knew they had a much bigger story than the show had room for. Through amazing adversity, and over coming some of the darkest times at true rock bottom, these two have held strong and both fought their way back from the nearly dead.

*If you can't get enough of these two, this episode includes an Exclusive Member only Q&A on Patreon!*

Show Notes

Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3pfUaQC

Follow Tara and Floyd! - TikTok | Instagram

The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown - https://amzn.to/44aQ9vW

How to Do the Work: Recognize Your Patterns, Heal from Your Past, and Create Your Self by Dr, Nicole LePera - https://amzn.to/4481uNg

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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