*This episode contains topics that may be triggering to some, including religious trauma, purity culture, infertility and sex education. Please use discretion when listening.*

Growing up as the only daughter in a deeply religious Baptist home was an interesting experience for Kendyl. Her father was strict and adhered to the principles of Christian "Purity Culture", a fact made evident to her by all the double standards she was witnessing. As she grew older and gained more autonomy, Kendyl started to unpack years of hypocrisy, shame, and religious trauma, choosing to understand the systems that made her who she is, where it all went wrong, and how she can change the future.

Show Notes

Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3pfUaQC

The Flaw at the Center of Purity Culture - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/purity-culture-evangelical-church-harms-women/618438/

How an Abstinence Pledge in the ’90s Shamed a Generation of Evangelicals - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/abstinence-pledge-evangelicals.html

D.A.R.E - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_Abuse_Resistance_Education

To BORG or not to BORG: Safe alternative or dangerous trend? - https://dailytargum.com/article/2023/03/to-borg-or-not-to-borg-safe-alternative-or-dangerous-trend

Dozens of students hospitalized during 'Blarney Blowout' in Amherst - https://www.wcvb.com/article/blarney-blowout-2023-umass-amherst-dozens-hospitalized/43197995 

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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Before Kristin Hoffman made her name as "Baker Bettie", she was fresh out of culinary school and looking for her dream job. One day she happened upon a Craigslist Ad that seemed too good to be true (as they often are) and took a chance on a family needing a private chef for a child with a special needs diet. But what Kristin signed up for and what Kristin actually got, were two very different scenarios.

Show Notes

Follow Kristin! - Instagram | Facebook | TikTok | Website

Bettie's Chicago - https://bettieschicago.com/

Labor Exploitation - https://www.stopthetraffik.org/lets-talk-labour-exploitation/

The Intersection of Labor Exploitation and Human Trafficking - https://combathumantrafficking.org/blog/2020/01/29/labor-trafficking/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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*Content Warning - This episode contains stories about extreme physical child abuse and neglect, including death. Please use caution when listening.*

Stacey was just a small child when her family joined a non denominational Christian church without an official name. As time went on, the group got more extreme, prepping for "The End Times" and engaging in publiFc spankings. It wasn't until a young boy at the church died, that the outside world was forced to get involved, and Stacey's family was in the middle of it. Through years of therapy and internal work, Stacey is finally ready to share her experiences publicly for the first time, with us.

Show Notes

Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3MHgmLr

The No Name Fellowship - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship.html

Witness Says Sect Leader Tried To Bring Boy Back From The Dead - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship/15367-witness-says-sect-leader-tried-to-bring-boy-back-from-the-dead.html

Father Sentenced to 41 Months in Death of Diabetic Son - https://apnews.com/article/087ca0b6010396a7b30cb99d7a525308

Understanding Cults: A Foundational Course for Clinicians - https://freedomofmind.com/courses/understanding-cults-a-foundational-course-for-clinicians/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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Samantha was a casino cocktail waitress, working the graveyard shift when she decided to change her direction in life and go into real estate. After getting her license and becoming a realtor she was introduced to eXp Realty and joined a local broker. Samantha and I go down the rabbit hole of MLM Real Estate - yes, there truly is an MLM for EVERYTHING! - answer some questions as to how Real Estate MLMs are different than the already complicated world of Real Estate, and even her talk about her time through the ringer in LuLaRoe and Piphany.

Show Notes

Watch Shiny Happy People June 2nd - https://amzn.to/43oTlUa

Herbalife Settlement - https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/legal-compliance/herbalife-pay-125-million-settle-class-action-suit-over-event-costs

BeachBody Lawsuit - https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-05-22/santa-monica-fitness-company-beachbody-lawsuit-exercise-coaches

Shiny Happy People Doc - https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/shiny-happy-people-everything-to-know-about-duggar-docuseries/

eXp Income Disclosure - https://exprealty.com/wp-content/uploads/eXp-U.S.-Average-Income-Disclosure-2022-1.pdf

eXp Revenue Share - https://buildingbetteragents.com/exp-realty/revenue-share/

eXp Stock on NASDAQ - https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/expi

eXp "Stock Options" - https://buildingbetteragents.com/exp-realty/stock-awards/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

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Shannon McLay is the host of Martinis and Your Money and the Founder and CEO of The Financial Gym, a personal financial services company. So many people leaving MLM feel lost and confused about how to fix the mess that was made and aren't sure where to look, or how to start. It's a scary and taboo subject and Shannon wants to take the shame and emotions out of it so we can better understand how our money works. How do you get out of debt? Is bankruptcy the best solution? Do I have options? How can we teach our children to be smarter than we were, with their money?

Show Notes

Martinis and Your Money - https://martinisandyourmoney.com/

My episode of M&YM - https://martinisandyourmoney.com/show-notes/episode463

The Financial Gym - https://financialgym.com/mlm (Save 20% with code MLM)

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

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*This episode deals with fatphobia, disordered eating, abuse, white supremacy and sex work. Please use discretion when listening.*

From an early age, Leilah already knew she was different and didn't fit into societies mold of what a "good girl" should be. Even growing up in a more liberal household, she still experienced white supremacy and purity culture from the stance of "what not to be". Through years of unpacking her own internal biases, and a short stint with BeachBody, Leilah discovered herself; a powerful, sex positive force for femmes everywhere, unpacking the stigmas behind intersectional feminism and what it looks like to be different and love yourself for it.

Show Notes

Follow Leilah - Instagram | Website | Podcast | Spotify | LinkTree

Leilah on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/danielle6575/episodes/EP-91---A-Strippers-Guide-to-Anti-MLM---Leilah---Beachbody-e1pt1fa

Aubrey Gordon - https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/

“You Just Need to Lose Weight”: And 19 Other Myths About Fat People by Aubrey Gordon - https://amzn.to/3LoGg5M

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

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Paging the FTC. What happens when you're so high up in an organization that you experience the the quiet parts out loud? You know the ones, stacking, poaching, scheming and alleged tax fraud - the 4 horsemen of the MLM apocalypse. What happens when you hold more cards than the MLM wants you to have? What happens when you're a big enough load bearing brick that without you, the pyramid has to break some of their own rules to make it work? Lucky for us, Danielle has all the answers and more, and she really needs to share it with us.

Show Notes

Follow Danielle - Instagram

Danielle on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-67-from-ghost-account-to-seller-danielle-hanneman/

PubMed - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

DoTerra's Comp Plan - https://media.doterra.com/us/en/flyers/compensation-plan.pdf

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

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Amanda was a new wife just trying to help pay down their bills when Pampered Chef enticed her with an opportunity and the kitchen of her dreams. The harder she tried to make it work while always struggling to survive, the more obvious the transactional relationship became, until Amanda had enough. She ditched her MLM, faced some harsh truths and made a plan that helped her and her husband tackle over $85K in crippling debt without sacrificing their wants and needs. And she tells us how we can do it too!

Show Notes

Financial Peace University - https://www.ramseysolutions.com/ramseyplus/financial-peace 

The Budget Mom - https://www.thebudgetmom.com/ 

Caleb Hammer - https://www.youtube.com/@CalebHammer 

Tori Dunlap : Her First $100K - https://herfirst100k.com/ 

The Financial Gym - https://financialgym.com/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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Part Two! It wasn't until Andrew and Will watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that they finally had enough and decided to speak out. But speaking their truth was just the beginning of their nightmares. They quickly became the targets of horrific fair gaming from the very same people they once used to call friends, even tracing the cyberstalking to the original source, and the most disgusting shock of all.

Show Notes

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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When Andrew Thompson first joined Paparazzi Accessories it wasn't out of spite or vengeance. He and his former partner climbed the multiple ranks effortlessly and were treated like MLM royalty until everything came crashing down, leaving him in the dust. Despite Andrew moving on and rebuilding his PapaKingdom, he had a target on his back he couldn't shake. It wasn't until he watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that he finally had enough and decided to speak out, but that was just the beginning of his nightmares.

Show Notes

$5 Jewelry and an MLM Conference Gone Wrong - https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22688317/mlm-covid-19-pandemic-recruiting-sales-paparazzi

Paparazzi Silent After Deaths - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-loved

11 Deaths Linked to Paparazzi - https://behindmlm.com/companies/11-deaths-linked-to-paparazzi-covid-19-las-vegas-event/

More Deaths from Paparazzi Super Spreader - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/phz1ca/more_alleged_deaths_from_the_paparazzi_super/

Delta Variant in Nevada Cases Triples - https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/delta-variant-found-in-nevada-covid-cases-has-tripled-2389059/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

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