Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!

One of the biggest groups targeted by MLMs are moms. And the best place to find moms? Facebook Mom Groups. Since I don't have that kind of energy, I enlisted my friend Jess of The Big Weird Mom! And we don't stop at the MLM gossip in the mom groups, because what fun would that be? From hilarious to terrifying, Jess and I chat about the stuff we've both seen from the so-called "mompreneurs" and the new age "momagers" on social media.

Show Notes

The Big Weird Mom - https://www.thebigweirdmom.com/

Jess's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigweirdmom

Jess's IG - https://www.instagram.com/thebigweirdmom/

#NuggetTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thebigweirdmom/video/6907331485523594502

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!

Welcome to Day 5! I am so excited to bring you this chat with my friend Elora Dodd, who you may recognize from her many online personas at the "Online One Room Schoolhouse". She's a powerhouse of comedy, historical oddities and autism education. We talked for over 4 hours and I cut it down to this (there is even more on Patreon!). Not only is Elora a wealth of compassionate information, she's hilarious, so when she wanted to make an episode with me, I jumped at the chance to chat! We cover some basics, and then dive into how MLM's prey on the parents of autistics and the dangers that come with it.

Show Notes

Our Google Doc to follow along! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10h18V7euR-nZeYA1dcGkDEURXrHaTayddZMWrY9LpQM/edit?usp=sharing

Operation Santa - https://about.usps.com/holidaynews/operation-santa.htm

Elora's LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/Online1RoomSchoolhouse

I am Autism (CW: fearmongering) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgLnWJFGHQ

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!

Day 4 brings us quite a haul! Not only do we chat about some shady stuff a lot of us have been participating in recently, but also news about an MLM closing it's doors and the aftermath of it's victims and how to support them. But then we've got some juicy MLM History, with a scam I hadn't even heard of, so The Shoe Fairy came by to tell us all about it and what she had to do to save her own ass.

Show Notes

Facebook post RE: Matilda Jane - https://www.facebook.com/anniebeth17/posts/pfbid02d65NEcCWZBhHNF8RzmpjqoT7Sy5HMNU4HjYAEDSNAuH1CRKEZ7jq8K5AKWjL83i4l

What You Should Know Before Using the Lensa AI App - https://www.wired.com/story/lensa-ai-magic-avatars-security-tips/amp

Chandra Prescod-Weinstein has advice to help you protect yourself on Lensa - https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1599536831045197824

To The Nines Scam - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/to-the-nines-kenny-davis-iamaa-direct-scam/

Kenny Davis Indictment - https://dentonrc.com/kenny-j-davis-2016-to-the-nines-indictment-pdf/pdf_75b8cb6a-150a-56a2-8082-b03443603a7b.html

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!

Day 3 of our 8 Days of Holiday Magic brings a chat with Jana Rogers, the owner of Silver Lining Lessons, creators of the Loaded Tea WITHOUT the MLM. You may recognize Jana from her how-to videos, where she teaches people how to make those expensive drinks, without the expensive price tag, with things you can buy at the store down the road. No MLM, or cult joining required. Along the way she's learned quite a bit about Herbalife and their reps, The Holiday Job Scam!

Show Notes

Career OneStop - https://www.careeronestop.org/jobsearch/findjobs/state-job-banks.aspx

Silver Lining Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/

Jana on IG - https://www.instagram.com/silverlininglessons/

Jana on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@silverlininglessons

The Hidden Truth of Loaded Teas - https://www.tastingtable.com/822612/the-hidden-truth-of-loaded-teas/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!

Day 2 of Holiday Magic! And after chatting with Sarah, I was inspired to dive deeper into Keith and his evil origin story. No surprise that it starts with Amway, drives straight through a pyramid scheme and ends at sex cult leader. Plus, I share with you another holiday scam, this time The Gift Giving Pyramid Scheme! Buckle up!

Shows Notes

Keith's Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere

Toni Natalie tells about her life with Keith Raniere - https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2018/03/08/rochester-woman-battles-nxivm-keith-raniere/360847002/

Keith's Love Letter to Toni Natalie - https://frankreport.com/2015/12/31/ranieres-love-letter-to-woman-he-tried-to-destroy/

Keith Raniere and his Pyramid Schemes - https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/keith-raniere-pyramid-schemes/

Consumers' Buyline - https://frankreport.com/2022/07/27/raniere-consumers-buyline-was-the-most-misunderstood-there-was-no-fraud/

Keith Raniere used MLM to Attract Victims - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/nxivm-keith-raniere-used-multilevel-marketing-to-attract-victims.html

Keith Raniere Bio - https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/keith-raniere

Keith & Amway - https://mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.com/2018/03/no-where-did-ex-amway-adherent-keith.html

Keith Raniere The Leader of the Nxivm Sex Cult - https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2019/05/15/keith-raniere-the-leader-of-the-nxivm-sex-cult/?sh=77f9a53835a9

Ample Evidence to Justify Investigation - https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Ample-evidence-to-justify-investigation-3337402.php#taboola-1

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic! Day 1 is the always lovely, spunky and badass Sarah Edmondson. You may know her from her work on HBO's The Vow, her book Scarred, or her podcast she produces with her husband Nippy, A Little Bit Culty. If you haven't heard Sarah or her story, buckle up! From her early beginnings in MLM to her takedown of the dangerous cult NXIVM, she's a force to be reckoned with.

Sarah on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/

A Little Bit Culty IG - https://www.instagram.com/alittlebitculty/

A Little Bit Culty Podcast - https://alittlebitculty.com/

HBO's The Vow - https://amzn.to/3ijHZOX

Double Bind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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All month we asked for your #igotout stories and boy did you deliver! From comment threads on Instagram and TikTok to the emails, and messages you sent us, I invited Danielle of From Huns to Humans to come help me tell them all! They teamed up with us this year as well to bring you even more cult focused content, and I wanted to invite them on the show to share their experiences and conversations too. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this episode, your stories will help so many.

Show Notes

From Huns to Humans I Got Out Part 2 - Coming Soon!!

From Huns to Humans Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247

IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!

Gerette Buglion spent over 18 years in a cult that manipulated her dreams and kept her stuck in an endless chain of enlightenment masquerading as a cult. Since leaving her everyday cult, she's written a book about her experiences, helped found a movement, changed countless lives and encourages other cult survivors to embrace their story, by using an incredibly powerful tool, the written word.

Show Notes:

Gerette's website - https://www.gerettebuglion.com/

IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/

An Everyday Cult by Gerette Buglion - https://amzn.to/3AKGcJ0

Dr. Dan Siegel - https://drdansiegel.com/

Lisa from IGotOut on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-93-i-got-out-lisa/id1585142247?i=1000586691304

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!

In 1997 the largest mass suicide on US soil happened as the Hale-Bopp Comet passed over earth. The tragedy was a result of the belief that evil space aliens were holding humans back from reaching their true potential, deeply held by the religious organization Heaven's Gate, founded in 1974 by leaders Ti and Do. One of the earliest members, Sharon Welsh just happened to be the aunt of my friend and fellow podcaster, Leslie Fear. So I asked Leslie if she would come help me tell the story of Heaven's Gate, using her never been told insider perspective.

Show Notes:

Follow Leslie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lesliefear/

Hale-Bopp, Heaven's Gate and the Largest Mass Suicide on US Soil - https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/03/hale-bopp-heavens-gate-and-the-largest-mass-suicide-on-u-s-soil/

Hale-Bopp Comet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93Bopp

Heaven's Gate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)

Do's Final Exit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGXDQ_8bSA

Student Exit Statements - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHz9it70TdI

Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Spencer Schneider spent 23 years of his life in an elite Manhattan secret society, hidden in plain sight, and operating under everyone's noses called "School". The founder, an eccentric washed up actress named Sharon Gans was obsessed with the private lives of her followers, abusing them for her own sick satisfaction. Though not an MLM, the parallels of the two organizations feel dangerously familiar, and Spencer is here to help us expose them.

Show Notes:

Spencer's website - https://www.spencer-schneider.com/

Follow Spencer on IG - https://www.instagram.com/officialspencerschneider/

Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival - https://amzn.to/3U2Gr9v

Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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