In an interview with counselor, author, teacher, and pastor, Dave Beach, we talk about how he made peace with his life's suffering, and how it sparked a passion in his life to understand a theology of suffering from an incarnational approach.

Do you believe things about Jesus, do you believe in Jesus, do you believe Jesus, or do you believe what Jesus believed? Switching to a journey motif when understanding the Gospel is essential to spiritual formation.

To answer the question, "How God Changes Us," we need to start with the basic understanding of the Gospel, and shift it from an exterior foreign thing imposed upon us to an interior thing written on our hearts that we are called back toward.