The thing about being on live TV for 20 hours a week is that you can’t fake it. Pretenders don't last. So the Lisa Wilkinson you know from ten years on the Today Show is the same Lisa Wilkinson you meet in real life. Mia Freedman talks to her former boss about what happens when you realise your husband is drinking and eating too much, the hardest part about marriage, and how Karl Stefanovic, her ebullient co-host, is dealing with a very public seperation. 

Show Notes

Your host is Mia Freedman.

With thanks to special guest Lisa Wilkinson. 

Find out more about Lisa's exhibition here.

View the first portrait she was talking about here.

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This podcast was produced by Elissa Ratliff 

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