In this episode of The Joanne Avison podcast, Joanne and her guest, Shane McDermott, engage in a deep conversation about the different qualities of listening... Can we listen from the heart? With our hands? As well as our ears?

They discuss the four key levels of listening - download listening, factual listening, empathetic listening, and generative listening - and how they impact our perception of reality. It’s a must-hear for everyone - especially those who work with people in a therapeutic or service based way. And Shane shares insights from his diverse studies and experiences, including his work with Otto Harmer, Dr. Ibrahim Karim, and Daniel P. Brown. 

The conversation emphasizes the importance of listening and how moving beyond self-centric approaches allows us to embrace relational and generative listening, fostering deeper connections with others and innovative solutions to problems. It’s a superb way to tune in to guidance from within. Tune in to enjoy exploring how different listening practices can expand your awareness and transform interactions for yourself, with others... It’s truly a game-changer!

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