Lizness School

Today Liz Dolan interviews Phil Pizzo, the founder of Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, a deep thinker on transitions and lifelong learning. His career has taken him from pioneering pediatric oncologist to Dean of Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies and chaplaincy training. He is a man who thinks a LOT about doing things differently.

Sponsor:

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. 

To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

HOMEWORK:

More on Phil Pizzo, his work and his contributions:

The Doctor’s Art podcast: An episode called Courage and Curiosity Discussion of what drew him to medicine in the first place with more about his work caring for seriously ill children and his pioneering work at the National Cancer Institute.

Stanford Daily: Phil Pizzo moves from Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/10/from-stanford-to-the-rabbinate-phil-pizzo-moving-on/

The Atlantic The New Old Age by David Brooks. What a new life stage can teach us about how to find meaning and purpose.  

Corrected book title from last episode:  

Turn Right at Machu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time from 2021. 

A fascinating and funny account of a journalist's travels through some of the world’s most majestic, historic, and remote landscapes.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

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Wellness. At Lizness School that means health + fun. Liz and Leah both have wellness goals this year that include training for a big event. On today's first ever wellness episode, specific training plans are put in place. First Leah, an ultra runner and certified trainer herself, gives Liz her plan from now until September to be ready for physical activity at altitude in Peru with her Stanford DCI classmates. Then Leah lays out her own goals for the LA Marathon in March, her first race since she moved to Nashville.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness .

Homework:

Read a good book about Macchu Picchu. That's Turn Right at Macchu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time by travel writer Mark Adams. What happens when an adventure travel expert-who's never actually done anything adventurous-tries to re-create the original expedition to Machu Picchu?

Suggest a good book about Peru and the Incas. Send liz any suggestions for some good reading before the Peru trip. Email us at [email protected]

Listen to Dr. Zeke Emanuel talk about his new wellness book where he stresses the importance of social connection and interaction along with all the other usual stuff. Here's a good extended interview about "Eat Your Ice Cream: Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life," on CBS Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsoVhSks35U.

Here's a link to the book.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode starts with a conversation with John Evans, a Lecturer in Nonfiction in the Creative Writing Department at Stanford University. John was Liz's memoir writing teacher during her year as a Fellow in Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute. Their conversation is about why people get interested in memoir writing and why being in a memoir writing group can be so meaningful. John leads groups and workshops through Memoir Mentors His two published memoirs are Young Widower: A Memoir (University of Nebraska Press, 2014), and Should I Still Wish: A Memoir. (University of Nebraska Press, 2017)

In the second half of the episode, Liz and Leah discuss what they learned about themselves by using The Values Bridge, an assessment tool created by Suzy Welch of the NYU Stern School of Business.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Homework:

More about John's writing: John Evans Author Page

Recommended Memoirs:

Arthur Ashe, Days of Grace: A Memoir. Arthur Ashe's poignant memoir was co-written with Arnold Rampersad and published posthumously in 1993. 

Katherine Graham, Personal History. Pulitzer Prize 1998. The fascinating story of the woman who changed American history running The Washington Post.

Michelle Zauner, Crying In H Mart. A 2021 memoir by Zauner of the band Japanese Breakfast about her Korean-American family and identity.  

Other recommendations from John Evan’s syllabus:

Dani Shapiro, Inheritance

Annie Dillard, Living Like Weasels

Samuel Wilson Fussell, Muscle - Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuiilder

The Values Bridge:

Suzy Welch Becoming You book and newsletter. 

Assessment Tool developed by Suzy Welch: The Values Bridge 

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today's episode, Liz and Leah review the goals they each set at the beginning of the school year. BUT FIRST, a listener supplies our searched-for alternative word for retirement. Tune in to hear it.

At the end of the episode, we have an assignment for listeners to execute over the holiday break. Our first episode in 2026 will include our experience taking Suzy Welch's Values Bridge Assessment. You can do it too. take it here.

We'll be back on January 8th to discuss the Values Bridge and interview Stanford Memoir Writing teacher John Evans.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode is inspired by a letter we received from listener Laura Tiberi asking us to consider how life choices can be different for "those who are faced with significant transitions as a result of medical illness or injury." Laura was "retired by leukemia", has experienced two stem cell transplants and "is 3 1/2 years old in transplant years."

We speak to Kira Dales, a fellow Fellow of Liz's at Stanford last year, who tells us of her life since a brain tumor and stroke. Her story includes physical, communication, cognitive and emotional recovery over the last 6 years.

Kira Dales on Stanford DCI site and LinkedIn.

Homework:

Kira recommends Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir Of A Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad.

Here is Suleika Jaouad's substack Creative Alchemy: The Isolation Journals.

Here is an interview on CBS Sunday Morning with Suleika Jaouad and her husband Jon Batiste.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today, Liz Dolan gets advice about advice-giving from Gretchen Rubin, host of the new advice podcast Since You Asked, co-hosted with psychotherapist + author Lori Gottlieb. Gretchen is a seven-time New York Times bestselling author who studies happiness, habits, and human nature. She is also the co-host of the award-winning, top-ranked podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin, and has more than 1.4 million subscribers to her “Five Things Making Me Happy” weekly newsletter.

Information on her award-winning Happier™ app here. More at gretchenrubin.com

Follow Gretchen:

Instagram – Facebook – LinkedIn

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Homework:

Read about the work of Suzy Welch, Professor at NYU's Stern School of Business and creator of Becoming You

The Suzy Welch Values Quiz

Suzy Welch's The Values Bridge

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ken Stern visits Lizness School today to talk to Liz Dolan about his new book Healthy To 100: How Strong Social Ties Leads to Long Lives. Ken is the Founder and Chair of the Longevity Project, which he launched in collaboration with the Stanford Center on Longevity. He hosts the podcast Century Lives, also part of the Stanford Center on Longevity.

Read Ken's newsletter Three Not-So-Bad Things on Aging and Longevity.

Subscribe for free to the Stanford Center on Longevity Magazine.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Homework:

Liz's story about total darkness retreat: Would you ever do this?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/magazine/dark-retreat-meditation-sensory-deprivation-spirituality.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Aaron Rogers Sky Cave Retreat https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/us/aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-wellness-ctpr

Leah's story about bar with no phones - https://dc.eater.com/restaurant-news/163917/no-phones-bar-hush-harbor-unplugged-opening-h-street#:~:text=Hush%20Harbor%2C%20a%20month-old,small%20watering%20hole%20(1337%20H

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's never too late to totally switch it up. Just ask Sue Fleishman who went from being a Communications Guru at big entertainment companies like Universal, Amblin and Warner Brothers to rebranding herself Campbell Linden, Romance Novelist! On today's episode, she shares her story including a juicy Hollywood bad-behavior- behind-the-scenes tale and how she came up with her nom de plume. Millennial Mentor Leah is jealous and tests out her own potential pen name.

To follow Campbell Linden and her books: Buy the latest Settle For More on amazon.

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AuthorCampbellLinden/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/campbelllindenauthor/

Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@campbelllinden

Website: https://campbelllinden.com/

Check out the trailer for Robert Evan's film The Kids Stays In The Picture

Article in Stanford Longevity Magazine RX Creativity for Health Life and Fun by Laura Holson featuring Sue Fleishman.

Novel by Lian Dolan about GenX couple that Liz mentions: The Marriage Sabbatical

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

HOMEWORK

Where to go for your own creative inspiration.

Sue recommends:

Find a class at Grub Street

Leah recommends:

Stephen King On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft.

Anne Lamott. Bird By Bird.

Liz recommends:

Mr. Scorcese 5 part doc by Rebecca Miller. A new series on Apple TV + about Martin Scorcese and his life's work.

Love, Gilda. Documentary about Gilda Radnor. Weaving together recently discovered audiotapes, interviews with her friends, rare home movies and diaries read by modern day comediennes (including Amy Poehler).

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today's episode, Liz Dolan talks to Greg Burke, a fellow '24 Fellow at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, about his path from growing up in St. Louis through print and television journalism to working at the Vatican serving as Pope Francis' chief spokesperson. Talk about career curves! Greg is currently teaching Communications at the IESE Business School in Barcelona

Here's Greg Burke's LinkedIn profile.

Here's information about the new board he serves on: Mary's Meals.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

In honor of Robert Redford, we introduce our first Lizness School Intergenerational Movie Challenge.

We both watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid https://www.amazon.com/Butch-Cassidy-Sundance-Paul-Newman/dp/B004EERGHS

Video: Life of Redford sent in by listener Sandy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1gCPtJg698

Info about Paul Newsman's camp for seriously ill kids: The Hole In The Wall Gang Camp https://www.holeinthewallgang.org

Info about The Sundance Institute founded by Robert Redford https://www.sundance.org

Video: Redford talks about the getting the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2npjQBRtc

Challenge for our next episode: Shrek.

Homework:

Liz recommends:

Sanjay Gupta’s Chasing Life episode in conversation with another neuroscientist Susan Greenfield about the long-term effect on our brain of living life on screens. https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/chasing-life/episodes/b8a997f4-37bb-11ef-8219-9f34dfc7bb1c

Is delegating tasks and even thinking to digital devices making us lose our minds, or at least some brain function? Dr. Sanjay Gupta and neuroscientist Baroness Susan Greenfield, Oxford University professor and author of “Mind Change: How Digital Technologies Are Leaving Their Mark on Our Brains,” discuss and debate how screen time might be impacting our human connections and own cognitive abilities. Plus, Greenfield gives us three ways to reclaim our digital independence. 

'Because of my age, I'm used to hugging people and living in three dimensions and using all five senses and interpreting body language. Because of that, I feel very sad when people seem to communicate, or put a premium mainly on how many so-called friends they've got, when really the friends are like some kind of Greek chorus who comment and need to be appeased and impressed and so on. So I think I'm worried a little bit about this generation, perhaps, that are uncomfortable in face-to-face communication because it's not an easy thing to do. And, the less you do it, the more aversive it becomes.

Leah recommends:

Sean Illing's podcast The Gray Area takes a philosophy minded look at culture, technology and ideas. This episode asks the question: Do you have moral ambition? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing/id1081584611 

We’re told from a young age to achieve. Get good grades. Get into a good school. Get a good job. Be ambitious about earning a high salary or a high-status position.

Some of us love this endless climb. But lots of us, at least once in our lives, find ourselves asking, "What’s the point of all this ambition?"Historian and author Rutger Bregman doesn’t think there is a point to that kind of ambition. Instead, he wants us to be morally ambitious, to measure the value of our achievements based on how much good we do, by how much we improve the world.

In this episode, Bregman speaks with guest host Sigal Samuel about how to know if you’re morally ambitious, the value of surrounding yourself with like-minded people, and how to make moral ambition fashionable.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠

For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. 

To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠

Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today's episode, Liz's older sister Julie Dolan on David Brooks' theory of resume virtues vs eulogy virtues, her expertise at making and keeping friends plus unsolicited advice for Leah about moving. Gotta get rid of the boxes. Also drifting vs vibing.

Julie's recommendation: The Road To Character by David Brooks

Lizness School Movie Challenge - An Intergenerational Cultural Exchange.

For the next episode, Liz and Leah will watch Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Homework:

For listeners who are interested in learning more about Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute or potentially applying, applications are open now through December 1 for the Class entering Fall 2026. There are 2 Virtual Information sessions this fall. More info and registration here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScnnMvgAXt0AWL6sP5FtkaKjKbOB_X8rgn2ai6p9jms3N9PpQ/viewform

Interested in Corporate Alumni Networks? More here.

Leah's YouTube recommendation: How To Stop WorryingWhether Or Not They Like You

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

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