This was supposed to be an episode about going back to work with grief, but it's not. Emily did have to navigate going back to work after her partner Chantel was killed in a hit and run, but this conversation ended up being about love. And loss. And the magical powers of caring for a dog named Indie. It's also about bringing the love you had with a partner who died into a new relationship and what it's like to grow that love with someone else.

We discuss

• How Emily and Chantel fell in love

• What she remembers about the night Chantel died

• The isolation and loneliness of the Covid shutdown so early in her grief

• How guilt shows up

• Grieving a partner when you're so young and not married – and other people's opinions about it all

• Navigating the logistics after a death

• How being concerned about negative reactions from others hindered Emily's ability to talk openly about her relationship with Chantel – and how she would do things differently now

• The wonders of therapy
• How Emily deals with the fear of someone else dying