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  • #61: Burning to Give Light: the delicate balance of illness and insight with former Wall Streeter Tom Morgan

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    The line between a psychotic break and success is not quite as clear as it once was, nor is the question of what medication, therapy, or practice is best, or in what amount. This conversation tries to unpack that liminal space with a man who knows it well and has been able to stay connected to the love in it.

    In this episode of Love and Philosophy, Andrea engages in an in-depth conversation with Tom Morgan, exploring the complexities of love, philosophy, and personal transformation. They discuss the challenging balance between high-functioning careers and spiritual pursuits, the misconceptions around self-sacrifice and service, and the importance of community in navigating life transitions. Tom shares his personal journey from a high-stress finance career through an awakening experience, detailing his struggles with mental health, the role of psychiatric medication, and the lessons he's learned about integrating holistic and scientific perspectives. This episode delves into the nuanced intersections of mental health, personal growth, and the pursuit of meaning, offering invaluable insights for anyone on a similar path.

    00:00 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
    00:06 Exploring the Concept of Love
    01:06 Introducing Tom Morgan
    01:57 Tom's Journey from Finance to Philosophy
    03:28 Balancing Wealth and Well-being
    05:42 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality
    08:28 Tom's Personal Awakening
    13:54 Navigating the Hero's Journey
    20:10 Challenges of Spiritual Integration
    23:10 Holding the Tension Between Worlds
    43:54 The Choice to Change
    45:38 The Struggle with Identity and Career
    47:07 Understanding Self-Sacrifice vs. Service
    47:46 The Paradox of Complexity
    51:01 The Role of Ketamine and Mental Health
    58:56 Integrating Spiritual and Physical Health
    01:06:45 The Importance of Community Support
    01:09:58 Navigating High-Functioning Anxiety
    01:17:23 Embracing Love and Contribution
    01:22:50 The Future of Consciousness and Society


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  • #60: The Dao of Complexity with theoretical physicist Jean Boulton

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    A heart-meets-mind discussion about complexity science and its suprising relation to Daoism, with physicist Jean Boulton. The conversation explores how stability and change are part of a reflexive interweaving of relationships, the importance of actions and behaviors in co-creating the future, and the role of compassion and love in fostering resilience. We also touch on the profound influence of spiritual practices such as Taoism and Buddhism on understanding complexity. The discussion emphasizes the necessity of integrating heart and mind, and how seemingly small, compassionate acts can create significant shifts. Whether you're interested in spiritual traditions, scientific perspectives, or personal development, this episode offers a rich tapestry of insights to inspire and guide you.

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    00:00 Introduction to Change and the Dao

    00:33 The Interconnectedness of Actions and Behaviors

    01:11 Embracing Complexity and Wider Perspectives

    01:43 Guest Introduction: Jean's Background and Interests

    01:50 Understanding Complexity in Science and Everyday Life

    04:03 The Mechanistic Worldview vs. Complexity Science

    06:29 Personal Journey: From Physics to Philosophy

    08:09 The Influence of Family and Early Philosophical Interests

    11:14 Process Complexity and the Dao

    11:41 The Paradox of Stability and Change

    13:31 The Role of Context and History in Shaping Patterns

    14:11 Discovering Daoism and Its Connection to Complexity

    15:47 The Nuances of Daoism in Understanding Complexity

    19:21 The Importance of Actions, Intentions, and Purpose

    26:13 The Role of Attention and Noticing in Complexity

    27:55 Integrating Heart, Mind, and Body in Complexity Science

    33:23 The Embodied Experience of Complexity

    35:02 The Interdisciplinary Nature of Complexity

    36:04 Meditation and Embodiment

    37:19 Tibetan Yoga and Compassion

    40:16 Childhood and Personal Growth

    42:42 Societal Wounds and Addictions

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  • #59: Complexity Coding, Residuality Theory & the Hyperliminal: being flexible and rigid at once with architect Barry O'Reilly

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    Embracing Uncertainty: Barry O'Reilly on Software Architecture and Philosophy

    In this episode of Love and Philosophy, we sit down with Barry O'Reilly, a seasoned software architect with a deep background in pure mathematics and experience at top companies like Microsoft. He discusses his innovative concept, Residuality Theory, which introduces complexity theory into software development for the first time. Barry explains how traditional linear thinking in coding often leads to rigid and brittle constructs that fail to adapt to the constantly changing business environments. By embracing paradoxes and uncertainties using theories from philosophy and complexity sciences, Barry offers a new perspective on software architecture that combines the logical rigor of code with the adaptability required for real-world human systems. Join us for this thought-provoking conversation that bridges the gap between coding and philosophy, and learn how embracing uncertainty can lead to more resilient and flexible software solutions.

    00:00 The Rigidity of Software vs. The Chaos of Business
    00:46 The Philosophical Roots of Computer Science
    01:28 The Architect's Paradox: Linear Thinking vs. Human Systems
    02:20 Introducing Residue: Adapting to Change
    03:16 The Relief of Embracing Uncertainty
    04:16 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    11:34 Meet Barry O'Reilly: From Math to Software Architecture
    16:02 The Journey to Complexity Theory
    21:25 Handling Uncertainty in Software Projects
    26:47 The Evolution of Software Engineering
    31:42 The Birth of Residue and Ity Theory
    38:17 The Need for a New Philosophical Approach
    43:36 The Immaturity of Software Engineering
    46:03 Personal Frustrations and Philosophical Pursuits
    46:40 The Reflective Practitioner and Instinctive Problem Solving
    47:13 Linear Thinking vs. Embracing Uncertainty
    49:34 Philosophical Foundations in Software Engineering
    01:05:03 Hyper Liminality and System Resilience
    01:13:45 The Role of Play and Forgiveness in Software Development
    01:19:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Architect's Paradox: Uncertainty and the Philosophy of Software Architecture

    Residues: Time, Change, and Uncertainty in Software Architecture.

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    1 hr 26 min
  • #58: Hill Making & Lessons for Living with WIRED co-founder Kevin Kelly

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    Andrea sits down with Kevin Kelly, a true pioneer in the world of technology and futurism. Known for his foundational work with Whole Earth, Wired Magazine and definitive pieces like '1000 True Fans,' Kelly shares insights from his early fascination with science fiction to his groundbreaking contributions in understanding and shaping the digital age and technological ideas. They discuss the profound influence of science fiction on technological advancements, the humanizing impact of the internet, and the vital importance of travel and curiosity for finding meaning. Kelly explains the nuanced continuum between biology and technology, the concept of 'hill making' versus 'hill climbing' in innovation, and how love and community remain central to his work. As they delve into Kelly's latest book 'Excellent Advice for Living,' this conversation offers rich perspectives on maintaining creativity, embracing complexity, and fostering an optimistic outlook in an ever-evolving world.

    00:00 Introduction and Early Influences
    00:05 The Role of Science Fiction in Shaping Technology
    01:58 Discovering the Internet as a New Frontier
    04:30 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    04:36 Kevin Kelly's Background and Achievements
    09:30 Early Encounters with Computers
    14:28 The Humanizing Effect of the Internet
    17:42 Meeting Stewart Brand and the Whole Earth Catalog
    28:01 The Importance of Travel and Broader Perspectives
    33:38 The Transformative Power of Travel
    34:37 Embracing Unique Paths in Life
    35:47 The Value of Time Over Money
    40:16 The Birth of Artificial Life and Wired Magazine
    46:34 The Paradox of Progress and Creativity
    53:38 The Importance of Noticing and Small Steps
    01:01:33 Hill Making vs. Hill Climbing
    01:02:59 Final Thoughts on Love and Life

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    1 hr 7 min
  • #57: Complexity Fatigue & the Third Entity with philosophers and neuroscientists Beck Todd, Shay Welch and Penijean Gracefire

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    Participatory sense-making is a term coined by Hanne De Jaegher & Ezequiel Di Paolo. Both these philosophers will be featured in upcoming episodes.

    Andrea Hiott hosts Rebecca Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire explore intricate themes of participatory sensemaking, the concept of the 'third entity,' and the impact of trauma and love on interpersonal relationships. The discussion delves into how the body acts as a data-gathering device, how sensory inputs shape our understanding of the world, and the importance of mutual sense-making in a highly complex and often overwhelming environment. Each speaker shares their unique perspectives and experiences, from cognitive neuroscience to ethical interactions, ultimately highlighting the significance of staying connected both with others and oneself. This conversation is intellectually stimulating and emotionally enriching, drawing on neuroscience, philosophy, and mental health to offer fresh insights into navigating the complexities of human interaction.

    00:00 Introduction to the Body as a Data Gathering Device
    00:57 The Futility of Communication and Social Media
    02:35 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    02:52 Participatory Sense Making and Social Cognition
    04:46 Meet the Three: Beck Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire
    05:46 Rebecca Todd: Cognitive Neuroscience and Life Experience
    08:13 Penijean Gracefire: Neurotechnology and Human Function
    12:21 Shay Welch: Philosophy, Public Art, and Participatory Sensemaking
    15:50 Exploring the Concept of the Body
    23:09 The Role of EEG in Understanding the Brain
    52:36 The Impact of Trauma on Sensemaking
    53:25 Introduction to Anchors and Interactions
    54:14 Effortful Sense Making Shaped by Love
    55:16 Individual Differences in Sensory Systems
    56:24 Neuromodulation and Sense Making
    59:24 Visualization and Communication Challenges
    01:03:07 Complexity Fatigue and Bandwidth
    01:14:11 Neuromodulation Device Experiment
    01:20:35 Participatory Sense Making with the More-than-Human World
    01:29:34 Challenges of Virtual Interaction
    01:36:48 The Futility and Hope of Communication

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    Steve Paxton, originator of the practice of contact improvisation, himself says:  “The reason it’s called contact improvisation is because there is a third entity that arises in the state – it is the state of agreement between the two of you that neither one is leading. It doesn’t become leaderless, the two of you are leading.” Source

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    1 hr 47 min
  • BONUS: A Quick Podcast about Podcast(s) with Andrea & Fotis

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    Andrea and Fotis (a guest host of L&P) explore the intricate world of podcasting. Fotis, returning from a previous episode and getting ready to do his second podcast for L&P, asks Andrea about the podcast's growth. In this unplanned chat, the two talk a bit about what podcasts mean to them, Game B, the intersection of various disciplines, and the broader impact of podcasting as a medium. They discuss the research and connective side of podcasting and reflect on this new journey, sharing insights on authenticity, community-building, and the challenges of navigating complex topics. Tune in for a quick half-hour chat that delves into their motivations, the evolution of their podcast, and the significance of having meaningful, open-hearted conversations that come from a place of love, even when they are challenging.

    01:13 Discussing Podcast Growth and Community
    02:02 The Philosophy Behind Podcasting
    05:25 Challenges and Responsibilities of Content Creation
    07:30 Interconnectedness and Network Building
    11:15 The Unique Nature of Podcasts
    12:14 Exploring Diverse Podcast Communities
    26:02 Future Directions and Personal Reflections
    34:31 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps

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  • #56: Radical Incompleteness & Windows of Ritournelle with poet philosopher Bayo Akomolafe

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    Ritournelle is a concept created by Gilles Deleuze & Felix Guattari for A Thousand Plateaus (1987.) It's the main subject of 11th plateau 1837: Of the refrain. In this episode of 'Love and Philosophy,' host Andrea Hiott engages in a deep and thought-provoking conversation with philosopher, psychologist, and poet Bayo Akomolafe. They discuss the transformative power of love, the complexities beyond binary categorizations, and the idea of life as a process filled with relational tensions and incompleteness. The discussion covers Bayo's personal journey, including reflections on his father and his book 'These Wilds Beyond Our Fences.' They explore themes of care, disruption, and the radical incompleteness of reality, providing listeners with insights into how we can embrace the multiplicities of being human. Host of this episode is philosopher Andrea Hiott.

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    00:00 Introduction to Categories and Relational Tensions
    02:20 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    02:43 Introducing Bayo Akomolafe
    03:19 Themes of the Podcast and Bayo's Background
    05:36 Binaries and Relationality
    09:11 Personal Reflections and Philosophical Insights
    09:46 The Concept of Retournello and Repetition
    10:56 Navigating Categories and Structures
    12:22 The Story of Bayo's Daughter
    14:17 Philosophical Reflections on Life and Death
    23:05 The Role of Trauma and Healing
    32:11 The Pandemic and Societal Reflections
    36:42 Love as Radical Incompleteness
    38:27 Conclusion and Farewell

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    Andrea Hiott is a philosopher and cognitive scientist developing the navigational approach to mind — the view that mind is “the body’s navigational action in all spaces of life, from the geographical to the emotional to the social to the virtual.” She hosts the Love & Philosophy (Beyond Dichotomy) podcast and Substack, and her work draws on hippocampal research, 4E cognition (embodied, embedded, extended, enactive), and the ecological tradition. Her book Holding Paradox: A Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness is forthcoming. Her recurring interests — holding apparent contradictions open, “way-making,” the importance of care and 'mattering', constellation/kaleidoscopic thinking, and moving beyond either/or — frame her questions throughout.

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    43 min
  • #55: How Shall we Live? with anthropologist and lineologist Tim Ingold

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    Life is not built by blocks but by lines woven together according to Tim Ingold, emeritus professor of anthropology at the University of Aberdeen and a leading thinker in anthropology and philosophy. Tim Ingold and Andrea Hiott explore key themes from Tim's influential works, such as 'Anthropology: Why It Matters' and 'Lines,' discussing how life is a continuous journey along interwoven threads and traces shaped by our every action. Building on Gibson, Deleuze,  Hallowell, Merleau-Ponty, and others, Ingold's idea of 'wayfaring' as our fundamental mode of being challenges traditional distinctions between nature and culture, mind and body, and forces us out of block-mind and into traces and threads of life interwoven. This enriching dialogue touches on the importance of awareness, attention, and responsibility, offering insights into how these ideas can help us navigate toward a world where love and respect for life are central. Whether it's through storytelling, music, or everyday actions, learn how our paths shape our humanity and influence the futures we create. This episode is an opportunity to reflect on how we should live together in a world full of possibility, a world we love enough to take responsibility for together.

    00:00 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
    00:05 Introducing Tim Ingold and His Work
    00:43 The Concept of Lines in Life
    01:43 Wayfaring and Life as a Process
    02:54 The Importance of Awareness and Responsibility
    04:18 Tim Ingold's Influences and Philosophical Approach
    10:28 Tim Ingold's Early Life and Inspirations
    17:26 Fieldwork and Anthropology
    25:16 Challenging Traditional Divisions in Science and Humanities
    32:07 The Evolution of Tim Ingold's Thought
    48:47 Revisiting Nature and Culture
    51:48 Anthropology as a Conversation
    54:46 The Anthropological Conversation
    56:12 Subject and Object in Anthropology
    57:58 The Middle Voice of the Verb
    59:39 Crafting and Teaching
    01:06:38 The Concept of Lines
    01:13:24 Embodiment and Attention
    01:27:42 The Future of Technology and Education
    01:39:52 Hope for the Future

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    ‘For we are made of lines. We are not only referring to lines of writing. Lines of writing conjugate with other lines, life lines, lines of luck or misfortune, lines productive of the variation of the line of writing itself, lines that are between the lines of writing.’

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    1 hr 43 min
  • #54: Project Love: What We Make & How it Makes Us with service designer Clive Grinyer

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     "If a thing loves, it is infinite" William Blake: 

    In this episode of Love and Philosophy, Andrea engages with Clive Grinyer, a renowned industrial and service designer and the director of Project Love. The discussion centers around how design can be a catalyst for fostering love, empathy, and compassion in society, and how this is a form of collective cognition. They explore various innovative projects, including a conversational bench, a heat map app, and a secular gravestone for natural beauty spots. The conversation delves into the philosophy behind design and how it influences our daily interactions and emotions. Grinyer shares insights from his extensive experience and highlights the transformative impact of design thinking in both personal and societal contexts.

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    00:00 Introduction: The Power of Design
    01:17 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    01:43 Introducing Clive Grinyer and Project Love
    06:19 Exploring Love Through Design
    07:17 Defining Love and Design
    21:39 Innovative Projects and Concepts
    28:59 Community and Societal Impact
    35:47 The Social Impact of Design
    35:51 Designing for Sustainability and Economic Viability
    36:01 The Complexity and Perception of Design
    36:19 The Role of AI in Design
    36:59 Technology and Human Experience
    37:19 Design in Everyday Life
    38:16 The Evolution of Technology Design
    39:22 Emotional Design and User Experience
    40:25 Project Love: Designing for Compassion
    01:02:00 Empathy in Design
    01:04:39 Future Directions and Community Building

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    "Clive Grinyer is an internationally renowned designer who has led global design teams at Samsung, Cisco, Orange and Barclays, worked at design consultancy IDEO, and was co-founder of the design company Tangerine. Starting as a product designer he has moved across digital, customer experience and service design and was Director of Design for the UK Design Council. As Head of Service Design at the Royal College of Art, he pioneered design as a tool for social impact, shaping how we respond to the environmental crisis and develop life services including financial and healthcare. He is an advisor and delivers executive training to companies including Bosch, the Dorchester Collection of hotels, and the Bank of England. Clive was a trustee of the Royal Society of Arts, Chair of the Design Business Association Effectiveness awards and visiting professor at the Glasgow School of Art. He is currently based in London."

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    1 hr 10 min
  • #53: Another Needful Freedom: Truth in Tension with Mike Brock, ex-tech-exec, reluctant Cassandra

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    'Needful Freedom' comes from the work of philosopher Hans Jonas and though this podcast is not about Jonas, Andrea and Mike discuss this term towards understanding the skill of the future.

    Mike's bio: "Ex-tech exec, now a reluctant Cassandra. Penning dispatches from democracy's peril at notesfromthecircus.com. Unmasking the unholy alliance of Silicon Valley and aspiring despots. 2+2=4, even when power insists otherwise."

    Cognitive Revolution: Mike Brock on Love, Truth, and the Future of Democracy:

    In this deep and thought-provoking episode, Mike Brock, an ex-tech executive and renowned writer, dives into the essence of human flourishing, liberal philosophy, and the crises we face today. With a powerful call for a cognitive revolution, Brock explores the balance between freedom and obligation, the pitfalls of technology, and the importance of love and shared understanding in navigating uncertainty. This conversation spans from historical insights to current events, offering a nuanced perspective on what it means to stay human in a rapidly changing world.

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    00:00 Introduction to Human Flourishing and Liberalism
    02:11 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    02:23 Introducing Mike Brock
    03:16 The Cognitive Revolution and Love
    05:31 The Role of Algorithms and Technology
    06:41 The Grand Praxis and Emotional Honesty
    32:44 Exploring Liberalism and Its Tensions
    45:20 The Problem with Marxism and Liberalism
    47:24 The Liberal Frontier and Welfare State
    50:02 Debating Bias and Neutrality
    01:14:35 The Crisis of Epistemic Fragmentation
    01:18:39 The Role of Technology in Human Experience
    01:30:18 The Fear of Asking Questions
    01:30:54 Tech Oligarchs and Social Media Impact
    01:33:44 The Cognitive Revolution
    01:36:31 Praxis and Emotional Connection
    01:37:40 The Role of a Prosecutor in Memetic Warfare
    01:41:03 The Importance of Intellectual Honesty
    01:41:46 The Intersection of Love and Philosophy
    01:56:16 The Tension Between Creation and Chaos
    01:57:16 The Legacy of Thinkers: Sagan and Hitchens
    02:12:26 The Necessity of Intellectual Gatekeeping
    02:14:31 The Importance of Understanding and Dialogue
    02:15:37 Path Dependency and Shared Experiences
    02:16:41 Frustrations with Social Justice Activism
    02:17:48 The Role of Persuasion in Social Progress
    02:21:32 AI Governance and Democratic Values
    02:23:03 The Dangers of Algorithmic Thinking
    02:31:06 Elon Musk and the Temptation of Efficiency
    02:41:54 The Call for a Cognitive Revolution
    02:53:25 Final Thoughts and Advice for Authentic Living

    Clear Thinking vs. Curtis Yarvin

    Doppler Effect

    Sacrifice, Truth, and Why We Fight

    A Treatise on Love

    The Grand Praxis

    View from Here

    Mike's Philosophical Statement

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