This week, Em shares big some news and the girls chat to magician Joel M joins the girls in the studio for a chat, some magic and mentalism. He blows their minds with some unbelievable tricks and manages to make it all entirely accessible in an audio format, who knew! He shares how he got into magic, why he does it and how it truly is better to not know how the trick works.

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Produced & edited by Daisy Grant

Music by Alex Andrew

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