Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt's cycling companion this week is Olympic silver medalist and 2000 TT world champion Mari Holden.

Mari opens up to Bobby and Jens about dealing with disappointment, building an online cycling community, gravel riding and why her Olympic medal isn't in a frame.

This podcast is a Velonews production in association with Shocked Giraffe, the episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.

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