What really makes work meaningful? In this episode, Jason and Joelle sit down with Dr Mark Fabian, Associate Professor of Public Policy at the University of Warwick and author of Beyond Happy. Together, they explore how work shapes our sense of purpose, the difference between self‑actualisation and self‑optimisation, and the often overlooked character traits that truly matter in the workplace.

If you’ve ever wondered whether work can (or should) be more than just a way to earn a living, this conversation will challenge your thinking and offer fresh insights into finding fulfilment beyond productivity.

Learn more about Dr Mark Fabian:
Find his book Beyond Happy here: harpercollins.com.au/9781835010501/beyond-happy
Learn more about him via his website: sites.google.com/view/markfabian/home

Content Warning: This episode contains explicit language.