In today's episode, we speak with David Gelles, a business journalist and author of the new book "The Man Who Broke Capitalism." Gelles examines how former GE CEO Jack Welch fundamentally altered capitalism with his ruthless focus on short-term profits over people. We discuss the lasting influence Welch had on business education and management philosophies. Gelles shares examples of alternative leadership models that balance profit and purpose, caring for employees and communities. He advises listeners to question assumptions and lead with more empathy. Though brilliantly effective, Welch's "shareholders over stakeholders" approach set a destructive precedent that still permeates business. Gelles hopes to inspire more conscious capitalism that serves society.

This thought-provoking episode examines the complicated legacy of Jack Welch and the profit-first approach that has permeated leadership.

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