Metta Hour with Sharon Salzberg

For episode 268, Emma Seppälä returns to the Metta Hour for our ongoing Anxiety Series.

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and different researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. This is the eighth episode in the series.

Emma Seppälä is a best-selling author, Yale lecturer, and international keynote speaker. She teaches executives at the Yale School of Management and is faculty director of the Yale School of Management’s Women’s Leadership Program. She is also the Science Director of Stanford University’s Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education. A psychologist and research scientist by training, Emma’s expertise is the science of happiness, emotional intelligence, and social connection. Her latest book, “Sovereign: Reclaim Your Freedom, Energy, and Power in a Time of Distraction, Uncertainty, and Chaos” came out in 2024.

In this conversation, Emma and Sharon speak about:

• Mental Health study on university students
• How self-compassion figures into wellbeing
• Reflective Best-Self Exercise 
• How the Dalai Lama made a mistake
• Sovereignty: awareness + courage + energy
• Suppressing emotions makes them stronger
• Emma’s experience with an Eating Disorder
• Working with difficult emotions
• Different regulation techniques
• Breathing techniques for regulation
• Research on Lovingkindness
• Benefits of meditation
• How intuition can help our anxiety

Emma closes the conversation with a guided breathing practice. To learn more about Emma’s work and get a copy of “Sovereign” on her website right here. Learn about Emma’s 6-week course, the Science of Sovereignty right here.

Check out the first episode in the Anxiety Podcast Series with Dr. Jud Brewer on Ep.260 of the Metta Hour Podcast.

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For episode 267, Deb Dana makes her first appearance on the Metta Hour for our ongoing Anxiety Series.

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and different researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. This is the seventh episode in the series.

Deb Dana, LCSW, is a clinician, consultant, author, and international lecturer on polyvagal theory-informed work with trauma survivors and is the leading translator of this scientific work to the public and mental health professionals. A founding member of the Polyvagal Institute, Deb developed the signature Rhythm of Regulation® Clinical Training Series: The Science of Feeling Safe Enough To Fall in Love with Life and Take the Risks of Living. She is also the author of many books, her most recent 2025 release, Glimmers Journal: Reflect on the Small Moments That Bring You Joy, Safety, and Connection.

In this conversation, Deb and Sharon speak about:

• Overview of Polyvagal Theory
• How Deb came to her work
• Understanding our nervous system
• How Polyvagal Theory impacts anxiety
• Being with anxiety vs being hijacked by it
• The spaciousness of Ventral Regulation
• Sympathetic versus parasympathetic
• The biological imperative of connection
• History of co-regulation in PVT
• The Autonomic Ladder
• Impact of a clinician’s compassion
• Transmitting cues of safety to others
• Savoring the practice of 30 seconds
• The difference between inconvenience and danger
• The Rhythm of Regulation
• Breath as a regulatory tool
• Gathering Glimmers
• Building the capacity to face suffering differently
• Breakdown of a glimmer practice
• Having a sensitivity to our trauma

Deb closes the conversation with a guided practice on the Story of the Three States. 

To learn more about Deb’s work, you can visit her website right here and checkout her latest books: the Glimmers Journal and the Nervous System Workbook.

Check out the first episode in the Anxiety Podcast Series with Dr. Jud Brewer on Ep .260 of the Metta Hour Podcast

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For episode 266, Amishi Jha returns to the Metta Hour for our ongoing Anxiety Series.

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and different researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. This is the sixth episode in the series.

Amishi is Director of Contemplative Neuroscience and Professor of Psychology at the University of Miami. She studies the brain’s attention system and the effects of mindfulness training on resilience and performance in high-demand professions, including the military, emergency services, and medicine. Her research has been supported by the Dept. of Defense and featured by TED, NATO, the World Economic Forum, The New York Times, and NPR. She led the first large-scale study of mindfulness training with active-duty service members. She is the author of the national bestseller Peak Mind and creator of the Pushups for the Mind app.

In this episode, Amishi and Sharon speak about:

• Mindfulness in mental health

• Cognitive resilience

• Eustress and how it serves us

• Mismatch between capacity and challenge 

• Attention as resilience

• Flashlight attention for clarification & focus

• Floodlight attention for situation awareness 

• Executive Functioning

• How to begin attention training

• Myths about stress and anxiety

• The participatory nature of the brain

• The attentional decline of burnout

• Compassion Fatigue

• Cognitive versus emotional empathy

• Amishi’s new app, Pushups for the Mind

• The minimum effective dose of meditation 

To learn more about Amishi’s work, you can visit her website right here and download her new app right here. Please note that the Pushups for the Mind app is free for all U.S. active service military members.

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For episode 265, Sharon speaks with and activist and author, Shanon Watts about her new book, Fired Up.

Shannon is the founder of Moms Demand Action, the largest grassroots group fighting gun violence in the U.S. Known as the ‘summoner of women’s audacity,’ she has been named one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People, a Forbes 50 over 50 Changemaker, and a Glamour Woman of the Year. Shannon is also an active board member of Emerge America, one of the nation’s leading organizations for recruiting and training women to run for office. Helping to redefine what’s possible when audacious women unite to drive change, she writes regularly about culture, politics and women’s issues for her Substack, Playing with Fire, and outlets like The Washington Post, Elle, Time, The 19th. Her new book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, is coming out on June 17th, 2025. To learn more about Shannon’s work, or get a copy of Fired Up you can visit her website here.

In this conversation, Shannon and Sharon speak about:

• The impetus for Shannon’s book
• How to live a life on fire
• Shannon’s personal story
• Marrying our abilities, values & desires
• Being burned up by our anger
• Survivors of gun violence
• What holds us back
• Sharon’s fear of public speaking
• The firestarter triangle
• How we find our desires & aspirations
• Sharon and Sharon’s top values
• Living with a sense of what you care about
• How do we sustain our fire?
• Community Building
• Firestarter University

Shannon closes the conversation with a short reading from her book, Fired Up.

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For episode 264, Soren Gordhamer returns to the Metta Hour for our ongoing Anxiety Series. 

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and different researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. This is the fifth episode in the series. 

Soren Gordhamer is the founder and host of Wisdom 2.0, the premier conference exploring living with greater mindfulness, wisdom, and compassion in the modern age. He is also a Co-Founder and General Partner of Wisdom Ventures, along with Jack Kornfield and Yung Pueblo, which invests in companies creating a more just and compassionate world. Soren is also the founder of the Lineage Project in NYC, and also spent a year on the Global Walk for a Livable World, a three-and-a-half world walk. He and Jon Kabat-Zinn also co-hosted the Mitigation Retreat, which was a free 3-month course held every weekday offering meditations and teachings during Covid. 

Soren is the author of numerous books. His latest, The Essential: Discovering What Really Matters in an Age of Distraction, was released in May of 2025. 

In this episode, Sharon and Soren speak about:

• The context for cultural anxiety 
• The development of social media
• Becoming aware of our stories
• Do we need a new narrative?
• Redefining our worth
• Revamping our North Star
• Harnessing all our energies
• Dismantling our armor
• How shame drives mental health
• The point of vulnerability 
• Dalai Lama meeting formerly incarcerated
• Living from a place of lack
• Ram Dass’ somebody-ness
• Soren walking the world
• The role information plays in anxiety

Soren closes the conversation with a guided meditation. To get a copy of Soren’s new book, The Essential, visit his website right here.

Listen to Soren’s first appearance on the Metta House from 2020 right here.

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For episode 263 of the Metta Hour, we are continuing our Anxiety Series with a re-release of a conversation with Dr. Richie J. Davidson, PhD, that originally aired in 2023.

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers, and different researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. This is the fourth episode in the series. Richie Davidson is the William James and Vilas Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and the Founder and Director of the Center for Healthy Minds. He is best known for his groundbreaking work studying emotion and the brain. A friend and confidante of the Dalai Lama, he is a highly sought-after expert and speaker, leading conversations on well-being on international stages such as the World Economic Forum, where he serves on the Global Council on Mental Health.

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In this episode, Sharon and Richie discuss:

• How Richie came to this path

• Meeting Daniel Goleman and Ram Dass

• How Danny Goleman brought Sharon to her first retreat

• The term “Mental Health”

• Innate Goodness

• Believing in Growth Mindset

• A vision of possibility for ourselves

• The role of systemic oppression in mental well-being

• Intergenerational Resilience

• Richie’s four pillars of well-being

• Personal mental hygiene

• “The road to Lhasa goes up and down” - Mingyur Rinpoche

• The value of community and teachers in mental health 

• Richie driving Mingyur Rinpoche

• Contemplative Neuroscience

• The Science of Flourishing Course

• Richie’s new book project

• The conversation closes with a guided meditation led by Richie.

To learn more about Riche’s work or his different books, you can visit his website and check out the Center for Healthy Minds.

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For episode 262, Sharon speaks with Scott Barry Kaufman as part of the Metta Hour Anxiety Series.

In this series, Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. 

Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, Ph.D., is a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist exploring the depths of human potential. He is founder of the Center for Human Potential and founder of Self-Actualization Coaching. Scott is the author of eleven books, including Rise Above, his forthcoming book set for release in 2025. Scott is also host of The Psychology Podcast— which has received over 30 million downloads. 

In this conversation, Sharon and Scott speak about:

• Having growth motivation

• Shifting the narrative of anxiety

• Scott’s childhood experiences

• Curiosity versus grit

• How to shift out of fear

• Creating space around anxiety

• Welcoming our beautiful monsters

• Broadening the Window of Tolerance

• Experiencing a sense of bothness

• Scott’s new book, Rise Above

• Victim versus empowerment mindset

• Learned Hopefulness

• Finding the light within

• Pros and cons of sensitivity

• The blessings of gratitude and awe

The episode closes with Scott leading a Tonglen practice.

You can learn more about Scott’s work right here and check out his new book, Rise Above, right here.

Check out the first two episodes in the Anxiety Podcast Series with Dr. Jud Brewer right here and Dr. Jenny Taitz right here.

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For episode 261, Dr. Jenny Taitz returns to the Metta Hour for our Anxiety Series. 

Jenny is a clinical psychologist and an assistant clinical professor in psychiatry at the University of California, Los Angeles. She completed her fellowship in psychology at Yale University School of Medicine and achieved board certifications in cognitive behavioral therapy and dialectical behavior therapy. In addition to treating clients in her private therapy practice, LA CBT DBT, she is the author of How to Be Single and Happy and End Emotional Eating. Her new book, Stress Resets: How to Soothe Your Body and Mind in Minutes, is now available in paperback, ebook, and audiobook formats. 

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In this episode, Sharon and Jenny discuss:

• Jenny’s approach to anxiety
• Emotions are contagious
• The superpower of emotional regulation
• Cultivating an inner life
• Three-point check-in
• How to break-up with overthinking
• Getting grounding
• Cognitive diffusion
• Naming your inner critic
• Sitting with uncertainty
• Building a hope kit
• Box-breathing
• Lovingkindness 
• Doing good deeds
• Examining assumptions
• Surfing emotional urges

Sharon closes with a hypothetical situation about anxiety which Jenny advises on. You can learn more about Jenny’s work and get a copy of her book, Stress Resets, on her website.

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For episode 260, we are launching a new Anxiety Series on the Metta Hour. Sharon is speaking with Mental Health experts, providers and researchers for tools to work with anxiety in increasingly challenging times. To launch the series, Sharon sits down with Dr. Jud Brewer MD, Ph.D.

Dr, Jud is a New York Times best-selling author and thought leader in the field of habit change and the “science of self-mastery,” who blends over 20 years of experience with mindfulness training and a career in scientific research. He is passionate about understanding how our brains work, and how to use that knowledge to help people make deep, permanent change in their lives — with the goal of reducing suffering in the world at large. Dr. Jud is the director of research and innovation at Brown University’s Mindfulness Center, where he also serves as an associate professor in Behavioral and Social Sciences at the School of Public Health and Psychiatry at the School of Medicine at Brown University, and a research affiliate at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

In this episode, Sharon and Dr. Jud discuss:

• The neuroscientific definition of anxiety 
• Fear of the future
• How we simulate the future
• The difference between planning and worrying
• Anxious feeling versus thought
• Qualifiers for mental health diagnoses
• The research behind Mental Noting
• The antidote to anxiety is curiosity
• Exploring gratification to its end
• How much does worrying help?
• Thinking isn’t what changes behavior
• We’re wired for happiness
• Neuroscientists don’t talk about willpower
• Internet myths about anxiety
• Deprivation curiosity
• How misinformation fuels anxiety
• Collective anxiety
• Default Mode Network
• Five Finger Breathing
• Noticing our “oh no” moments
• Kindness and curiosity are best friends
• The Unwinding Anxiety App

The conversation closes with a short guided curiosity practice. You can learn more about Dr. Jud’s work and get a copy of his book, Unwinding Anxiety, right here and learn more about his Mindshift Recovery App right here.

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For episode 259, we bring you the second half of a two-part series on the Force of Kindness.

Listen to the first part of this series released earlier in February of 2025 right here.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama has stated, “My true religion is kindness.” Although frequently denigrated in our culture as simplistic and weak, the quality of kindness has an inherent power to transform our worldview from one of fear and isolation to one rooted in clarity, courage and compassion in action. Kindness is the fuel that helps us truly “walk our talk” of love. Recording in December or 2024 by the Drepung Gomang Center for Engaging Compassion.

In this recording, Sharon teaches on:

• The aspiration of kindness
• Brahma Viharas as a basis for aspiration
• Lovingkindness as Connection
• Our Subway Car
• Reflection on Interconnection
• The definition of Compassion
• Sympathetic Joy
• Gratitude as the energizer
• Equanimity as the secret ingredient
• The eight vicissitudes
• The episode closes with Sharon taking some questions from the audience

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