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MMS #117 - The Power of Being More Human in Sales with Andy Paul


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 In this episode, Brandon Lee, and Carson Heady are joined by Andy Paul, a renowned sales strategist and the author of Sell Without Selling Out.

With decades of experience across tech and startup sales, Andy shares actionable insights on why the sales industry needs to move away from outdated approaches and focus on buyer-centric practices.

The False Promise of Sales Tools:

  • Andy discusses the misplaced focus on sales tools that prioritize quantity over meaningful engagement.
  • He highlights how this approach has led to declining win rates across industries, where many companies accept mediocrity instead of striving for consistent success.

Shifting the Sales Narrative:

  • Successful selling isn’t about pitching, pushing, or persuading—it’s about helping buyers make decisions that address their needs and challenges.
  • Andy urges sellers to move beyond “discovery calls” and instead help buyers define their goals, identify opportunities, and envision results.

The Four Pillars of Buyer Progress:

  • Sellers should focus on ensuring every interaction helps the buyer move forward. Andy outlines four questions to keep sellers on track:
    • What does the buyer need from us now?
    • How will we provide this help?
    • How does this assistance address their concerns?
    • What steps will they take next as a result?

Fostering a Culture of Success:

  • Andy criticizes the normalization of low win rates in many sales cultures, calling it a “culture of losing.”
  • He stresses the importance of instilling confidence in sellers to aim higher, make smarter choices, and focus on winning more often than losing.

Building Authentic Connections Online:

  • Andy emphasizes the importance of sellers and leaders building trust through genuine, personalized content.
  • Buyers want to engage with professionals who demonstrate expertise and provide insights before a sales meeting even begins.


Andy Paul’s thought-provoking perspective on modern sales challenges the status quo, encouraging sellers to focus on their customers’ success rather than simply pushing products. 

By fostering genuine relationships and focusing on progress-driven interactions, sales teams can elevate their effectiveness and create meaningful outcomes for buyers. 

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