Next Steps Forward with Dr. Chris Meek

In this episode of Next Steps Forward, host Dr. Chris Meek welcomes Dr. Tim Currie, CEO of NOVA and author of Swift Trust: Mastering Relationships in the Remote Work Revolution. Drawing from his groundbreaking research and leadership experience, Dr. Currie unpacks the hidden "trust bleed" that erodes collaboration, engagement, and culture in remote and hybrid workplaces.

He explains why traditional approaches to building trust no longer work in today's distributed environments and offers practical strategies for leaders to intentionally design the rituals, relationships, and structures that teams need to thrive. Whether you're a business leader navigating hybrid work, an HR professional shaping culture, or a team member looking to strengthen connections, this conversation will give you actionable insights to help you and your organization succeed in the future of work.

About Dr. Tim Currie: Dr. Tim Currie stands at the forefront of organizational trust innovation, having personally sold over $100 million in revenue and guided teams to over $1 billion more. As a transformational leader who's managed 1,000-plus professionals throughout his career, he combines doctoral-level research with lived experience, driving high-growth technology companies through digital transformation. His pioneering work on trust architecture promises to revolutionize how Fortune 500 companies build cultures of innovation in remote environments. When not reshaping the future of work, Dr. Currie applies his insights as an advisor to tech startups and private equity firms seeking exponential growth through trusted leadership.

As the 24th observance of the September 11th attacks approaches, Next Steps Forward host Dr. Chris Meek sits down with Kristen Breitweiser, a woman whose life was forever changed that day and who transformed her grief into a powerful call for justice and accountability.

After losing her husband, Ron, in the attacks on the World Trade Center, Kristen emerged as one of the most determined and influential voices for 9/11 families. Alongside three other widows, known to the nation as the "Jersey Girls," she fought tirelessly for the creation of the 9/11 Commission, testified before Congress, and challenged the U.S. government to answer hard questions.

In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Kristen reflects on:

• Life with her husband Ron before 9/11 and the moments she holds most dear

• The morning of September 11, 2001, and the immediate aftermath of loss

• How her grief became a driving force for activism and systemic change

• The creation and legacy of the 9/11 Commission; its successes and shortcomings

• The resilience it takes to face criticism and keep pushing forward

Kristen also shares insights from her book, Wake-Up Call: The Political Education of a 9/11 Widow, which chronicles her journey from suburban mom to nationally recognized advocate.

Whether you lived through 9/11 or belong to a generation that only knows it through history, this episode is a powerful reminder of courage, resilience, and the ability of "ordinary people" to make extraordinary change.

About Kristen Breitweiser: Kristen Breitweiser is a 9/11 widow, lawyer, and activist who has spent more than two decades demanding truth, accountability, and justice for victims of terrorism. Thrust into advocacy after the loss of her husband Ron in the South Tower on September 11, 2001, she helped lead a movement, known as the "Jersey Girls," that transformed grief into action. Their persistence forced the creation of the 9/11 Commission and ensured Congress enacted sweeping national security reforms based on its recommendations. Breitweiser testified before the Joint Inquiry of Congress in September 2002, calling for the Commission's establishment, and later before the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee in 2004 on the need for reforms. She chronicled her journey in her memoir Wake Up Call: The Political Education of a 9/11 Widow, and continues to be a leading voice on victims' rights and government accountability.

Her work has extended far beyond the Commission. She has been deeply involved in shaping legislation such as the Justice Against State Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), the 9/11 Transparency and Accountability Act, the Sudan Claims Resolution Act, and reforms to the U.S. Victims of State Sponsored Terrorism Fund (USVSSTF). Most recently, she was involved in the "Fairness for 9/11 Families Act," legislation that, while intended to deliver long-overdue justice, was ultimately compromised and provided only sharply limited restitution to thousands of 9/11 estates, widows, and children. Today, Breitweiser continues her advocacy on Guantánamo, counterterrorism policy, and the pursuit of full and equitable restitution for all victims of state-sponsored terrorism. She is currently at work on a follow-up to Wake Up Call (to be released in September 2026) and co-hosts the soon-to-launch Chat 9-11 Podcast.

What makes a good leader truly great? In this week's episode of Next Steps Forward, host Dr. Chris Meek welcomes Dr. Dana Kirchman, leadership expert, executive coach, and trusted advisor, to explore that very question. With more than 25 years of experience working alongside leaders at the highest levels, Dr. Kirchman shares her insights on the habits, mindsets, and relational skills that drive authentic leadership transformation.

From the role of compassion in high-stakes environments, to the impact of remote and hybrid work, to the essential differences between emotional intelligence and relational intelligence, Dr. Kirchman unpacks what leaders need most to succeed in today's world. Listeners will also hear her perspectives on when to seek executive coaching, what to look for in a coach, and how coaching can empower both top executives and emerging leaders to reach their full potential.

Whether you're a seasoned executive, an aspiring leader, or someone curious about how leadership evolves, this episode offers practical wisdom, candid stories, and thought-provoking lessons to help you take your own next steps forward.

About Dr. Dana Kirchman: Dr. Dana Kirchman, Ed.D., J.D., PCC, leads an executive and team coaching practice grounded in compassion and relational intelligence. Dana is a leadership expert, executive coach, and trusted advisor, partnering with leaders at the highest levels for over twenty-five years. Known for her combination of expertise, insightful candor, and care, Dana brings experienced points of view to leadership transformation. Dana holds a Doctorate in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California and teaches at the Columbia University Coaching Certificate Program. She is an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and a Columbia University Certified Executive Coach, combining practical coaching methods with a rigorous understanding of organizational culture. Dana earned her J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School and her B.A., summa cum laude, from Yale University. She has also worked as a theatrical producer and is a trained meditation instructor who can integrate creativity and mindfulness into her coaching work. As a counselor and catalyst, Dana supports clients while challenging them to think bigger and lead more purposefully. She is a sought-after guide for executives navigating change.

Janice Trey, the head of Epoch Times/NTD Network, and Ying Chen, conductor at Shen Yun Performing Arts, join program host Dr. Chris Meek in this installment of Next Steps Forward to discuss their experiences with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), communist history and to highlight the ongoing human rights abuses of numerous groups in China. Janice Trey will detail her experiences in a CCP labor camp, where she lived until she was 9 years old, and her inside view of the two vastly different worlds of communism and freedom. She discusses why her commitment to spread true information and accurate unbiased journalism is important, not just for her but for everyone. As the conductor of Shen Yun Performing Arts, Ying Chen shares her personal experiences defying the CCP's attempts to cancel Shen Yun, the difficulties the company has faced in light of the CCP's global campaign to cancel it and what fuels her sense of empowerment in the face of adversity. Both Janice and Ying's journeys and work underscore the necessity to keep people informed.

Janice Trey: Janice Trey's thirst for truth sprouted from a Chinese labor camp. She was born in the middle of the Cultural Revolution—one of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Mao Zedong's campaigns that targeted traditional Chinese culture, killing an estimated millions. Living her first 9 years in the camp and making it out has given her an inside view of two vastly different worlds and a commitment to spread true information and accurate unbiased journalism as the head of the Epoch Times/NTD Network. During the Communist Cultural Revolution, authorities labeled people like her parents, college educated engineers as an inferior class and sent them (and the entire family) to a labor camp in a remote southern Chinese village. The living conditions were brutal. When she came to the United States her quest for learning led her to the University of Texas at Austin and Harvard Business School where she excelled. She also holds a Management and Leadership certificate from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Janice Trey, is a Certified Public Accountant, has held various executive roles at Fortune 500 companies. Her healthcare experience includes leadership roles in global health tech, consumer lifestyle, medical device, life science, and technology companies. Ms. Trey is passionate about boosting well-being, and saving and improving lives. She is a strong advocate of human rights, free speech, free press and freedom of religion. In that regard, she encourages excellence from her team of journalists and on-air broadcasters to provide the accurate news and information that is critical to the world.

Ying Chen: Since Shen Yun's inception in 2006, Ying Chen has served as conductor, principal flutist, piccoloist, orchestra manager, and stage manager. She was born into a family of elite musicians in Beijing, and studied flute at the Music Middle School Affiliated to Shanghai Conservatory. After graduating with the highest honors, she relocated to the United States, where she attended Esther Boyer College of Music at Temple University on scholarship and studied with the principal flutist of the Philadelphia Orchestra. She composed pieces for New Tang Dynasty Television's Global Chinese New Year Gala and Holiday Wonders performances in 2004 and 2005.

In this week's episode of Next Steps Forward, host Dr. Chris Meek sits down with retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General Patricia "Patty" D. Horoho, a trailblazer who made history as the first woman, first nurse, and first non-physician to serve as the Army Surgeon General and Commander of the U.S. Army Medical Command. With a career spanning over 38 years of service, General Horoho reflects on her remarkable journey from the Green Ramp disaster in 1994 to the Pentagon on 9/11, and her transformational leadership in Army medicine. After retiring from the Army, General Horoho's leadership continues to shine as Chief Strategy, Innovation and Transformation Officer for Optum Health, where she has rapidly grown the organization to multi-billion-dollar success, particularly through her agile response to the COVID-19 pandemic. In this conversation, they discuss her career milestones, leadership principles, resilience, and the groundbreaking changes she implemented in military healthcare. LTG Horoho also shares insights into her personal life, including balancing her demanding career with motherhood, and how she continues to serve others through the 2Serve Together Foundation, which honors military women. Tune in to hear her inspiring advice on leadership, resilience, and the importance of empowering the next generation of leaders—especially women.

About LTG Patricia "Patty" D. Horoho: Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General Patricia "Patty" D. Horoho is the current Chief Strategy, Innovation and Transformation Officer for Optum Health. She was the 43rd Army Surgeon General and the Commander of the U.S. Army Medical Command. She made history as the first woman, first nurse and first non-physician to hold these posts. In these roles, LTG Horoho led the world's third-largest health care system with a multi-billion-dollar budget, a staff of 156,000 and a global logistics, research and care network that spanned five continents. After her retirement from the Army in December 2015, she joined UnitedHealth Group in 2017 to establish the Optum Serve brand, which is the end-to-end federal business of both Optum and UnitedHealth Group. In the last two years, Optum Serve has entered into new markets, grown the top line by three-hundred percent, and grown into a multi-billion dollar organization. In the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, her agility and ability to effectively leverage resources resulted in Optum Serve rapidly standing up new business models to support COVID-19 testing and vaccine distribution. In 2023, LTG Horoho also established the 2Serve Together Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to honoring our military women.

What happens when the protectors need protection? This week on Next Steps Forward, host Dr. Chris Meek sits down with Lieutenant Randy Sutton (Ret.), a 34-year law enforcement veteran, national media voice, and founder of The Wounded Blue, the only nationwide organization dedicated to helping injured and disabled law enforcement officers.

During his decades of service, Randy Sutton witnessed firsthand the physical, emotional, and financial toll of the job - especially when officers are injured in the line of duty. Out of that experience, he created The Wounded Blue, a nonprofit that provides critical support, advocacy, and peer counseling to officers and their families when they need it most.

In this powerful conversation, Sutton shares: ✔ The real challenges faced by law enforcement officers when tragedy strikes. ✔ How The Wounded Blue is changing lives - and why the need for its mission is greater than ever. ✔ His perspective on the state of policing in America today. ✔ Personal stories from a remarkable 34-year career that earned him the reputation as the "voice of American law enforcement."

If you care about public safety, resilience, and supporting our nation's heroes, this is a conversation you can't afford to miss.

About Randy Sutton: Lieutenant Randy Sutton (Ret.) is a distinguished figure in the law enforcement community. With over 34 years of service, he brings a wealth of expertise to the table. Sutton founded The Wounded Blue as a means to support injured and disabled law enforcement officers. As the Chair of the Board of Directors, he leads initiatives aimed at providing assistance and resources to those who have sacrificed for the safety of others. In addition to his contributions in law enforcement, Sutton is a prolific author, and his insights have earned him appearances in movies and TV shows, solidifying his reputation as the "voice of American law enforcement."

What can economics teach us about leadership, resilience, and character? This week on Next Steps Forward, host Dr. Chris Meek welcomes Seung Paik, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel, award-winning educator, and creator of Leadernomics, for a thought-provoking conversation on leadership in today's complex world.

After 25 years of distinguished service, including deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan and leadership roles across the globe, Paik transitioned from military command to the classroom - where he combined his passion for leadership and economics into a groundbreaking framework: Leadernomics. Described as "the 101 course everyone wishes they had," Leadernomics explores the intersection of economic principles and leadership behaviors to help individuals and organizations move from "what is" to "what should be."

About Col. Seung Paik: Seung Paik retired from the United States Air Force at the rank of colonel after 25 years of distinguished service. He has led award-winning organizations at various levels, specializing in resource and financial management, and has served in operations across the globe from Korea, Japan and Germany to deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. He received his master's degree from Penn State University and has been an instructor at both the University of Colorado, Colorado Springs and the United States Air Force Academy where he was awarded the Outstanding Academy Educator. As a dedicated educator, Seung Paik has taught micro and macroeconomics, law and economics and developed a seminar on the economics of sports. While teaching at the Academy, Seung's passion for leadership and economics came together in the creation of Leadernomics, which he describes as the 101 everyone wishes they had.

Cari Kenzie is trailblazer in the fields of leadership, resilience and personal transformation. As a dynamic speaker, coach and entrepreneur, Cari has dedicated her life to empowering others to rise above their circumstances and lead with purpose. In 2013, Cari's life took an unexpected turn when she survived the Boston Marathon bombing. This harrowing experience became a pivotal moment, reshaping her understanding of resilience, leadership and the power of choice. Rather than being defined by the trauma, Cari chose to transform it into a source of strength and inspiration. Her story is not just about surviving adversity - it's about using that adversity as a catalyst for profound personal and professional growth. Before becoming the renowned speaker and coach she is today, Cari was at the helm of a multi-million-dollar marketing agency. Her leadership guided the company to great success, culminating in a strategic acquisition that allowed her to transition into a new chapter - one that would focus on helping others navigate their own paths to success. This transition was not just a career shift but a calling, leading Cari to co-found iShift, a movement designed to challenge the status quo and awaken the leader within every individual.

About Cari Kenzie: As a dynamic speaker, coach and entrepreneur, Cari Kenzie joins program host Dr. Chris Meek on Next Steps Forward to speak about dedicating her life to empowering others to rise above their circumstances. The harrowing experience of surviving the 2013 Boston Marathon prompted her to transform the experience into a source of strength and inspiration instead of being defined by the trauma. Cari was also previously at the helm of a multi-million-dollar marketing agency. Her leadership guided the company to great success, culminating in a strategic acquisition that allowed her to transition into a new chapter - one that would focus on helping others navigate their own paths to success. The audience will find Cari's mission to be clear: to help guide others to make the powerful choice to wake up not to the shadows of the past but to the limitless possibilities of the future. She will discuss why curiosity is the first step to true leadership, the importance of asking the right questions even in the midst of chaos, and her belief that every individual has the potential to lead with authenticity and strength.

In this moving episode of Next Steps Forward, Dr. Chris Meek is joined by brothers Patrick and James Dowdell - two men whose lives were forever changed on September 11, 2001, when they lost their father, FDNY Lieutenant Kevin Dowdell. Patrick and James share how that moment of tragedy inspired lives of extraordinary service. Patrick went on to graduate from West Point, serve as a combat platoon leader in Iraq, and lead operations in Afghanistan as a captain. James, just 17 at the time of 9/11, later followed in his father's footsteps by joining the FDNY and now serves as a lieutenant, continuing the legacy of bravery and public service.

Through heartfelt stories of loss, leadership, and resilience, the Dowdell brothers reflect on the values instilled in them by their parents, how their father's sacrifice continues to shape their path, and what it means to live a life of purpose in honor of those we've lost. Join them for an unforgettable conversation about courage, commitment, and the enduring power of family legacy.

About James and Patrick Dowdell: Brothers James and Patrick Dowdell grew up as the sons of a New York City firefighter and a public-school teacher, who instilled service and leadership as the core of their life missions. Following the tragic loss of their father, FDNY Lieutenant Kevin Dowdell, on September 11, 2001, Patrick and James joined the rescue and recovery efforts at Ground Zero. The following year, Patrick was accepted into the United States Military Academy at West Point. He was commissioned as a second lieutenant when he graduated in 2006 and served a one-year deployment as a platoon leader in Iraq beginning in 2008 during combat operations in Baghdad. Promoted to captain, he deployed to Afghanistan in 2010, overseeing mission planning and combat operations in Farah Province. James Dowdell was a 17 year old high school senior when he participated in the search and recovery efforts at the World Trade Center site. He began his formal FDNY career on Ladder 174 in Brooklyn. James was promoted to the rank of lieutenant in January on what would have been his father's 70th birthday. James Dowdell is also a sought-after public speaker who draws upon the invaluable lessons he learned from his father's legacy to inspire audiences with insights into service, resilience, and the enduring impact of family and duty.

In this powerful and enlightening episode of Next Steps Forward, Dr. Chris Meek welcomes psychiatrist and author Dr. Steve Lesk, a 40-year veteran of the mental health field and author of Footprints of Schizophrenia: The Evolutionary Roots of Mental Illness. With decades of experience treating patients and mentoring professionals, Dr. Lesk brings a groundbreaking perspective to one of the most misunderstood mental illnesses: schizophrenia.

Dr. Lesk explores his pioneering "primitive organization" theory, which draws from evolutionary biology, neurochemistry, and psychology to offer a new understanding of schizophrenia - not as a broken system, but as a reflection of ancient brain structures. He tackles some of the biggest myths surrounding the illness, addresses the stigma and misconceptions, and offers compelling arguments for empathy, early intervention, and a shift in how psychiatry approaches diagnosis and treatment. Whether you're a healthcare professional, a caregiver, or someone curious about the human mind, this episode offers critical takeaways and a hopeful vision for the future of mental health care.

About Dr. Steven Lesk: Dr. Steven Lesk is the author of Footprints of Schizophrenia: The Evolutionary Roots of Mental Illness. He became a practicing, board-certified psychiatrist in 1984 and he's treated thousands of adult patients as he has conducted research, written articles, and mentored students. He served as Chairman of the Department of Inpatient Psychiatric Services at the Brooklyn Veterans Administration Hospital and was an assistant professor at the hospital's affiliated medical school. He is pioneering new theories in hopes of improving our understanding of the illnesses that patients endure and reducing stigma while surging empathy.