Lee and Jakob revisit a popular episode with Heather Holleman all about how to be better at conversation to have better relationships. They cover the 4 mindsets for great conversation, the three E’s of conversation, and 6 areas you can always ask about in someone’s life. Plus we talk about awe, gold and shadow, and why having a plan matters in life.

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Heather Holleman

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Heather Holleman's 4 mindsets for great conversation

Be curious

Believe the best; positive regard

Invest – express concern

Divest of self-protection – through mutual sharing, openness, and vulnerability (with prudence).

Lee's 3 E's

Encourage—one another in all aspects of life

Engender—facilitate growth and goal achievement

En-Awe—help instill and facilitate awe in one another

Heather's 6 areas of conversation for when you don't know what to ask

Social

Emotional

Physical

Cognitive

Volitional

Spiritual

Dr. Jennifer Wiseman Senior project scientist for the Hubble Space Telescope (in an upcoming episode)

Dacher Keltner’s book “Awe” (in an upcoming episode)

Greg Lemond quote:  “It never gets easier, you just get faster”

Andrew Huberman podcast on having a workout plan

Songs from musical Jakob mentions called “Conversations”

“The How Of Happiness” which cites the study on variable heart rateSubscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube

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