Curtiss King (aka Captain DIY) is back for round two. This episode is the Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) 101 playbook for indie artists—especially the ones who feel weird or insecure about selling their music.

Curtiss breaks down how 100 diehard fans can change your life and the exact tools & systems he uses to run a successful DTC business. For Patreon members, we go all the way in on AI and where it’s headed from a DIY artist’s perspective.

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0:00 Intro: Curtiss King x One More Time Podcast
2:28 Why Direct-to-Consumer Matters for Musicians
3:50 What Is Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) for Indie Artists?
5:26 Why Spotify Isn’t Your Business Partner 
7:01 Why Artists Avoid Selling 
8:53 You’re Not Evil for Charging Money (Mindset Shift)
11:37 Music Is “Medicine” (Value, VIP Offers, Superfans)
13:01 Disposable Music vs Real Art (Why Quality Wins)
15:13 Streaming vs DTC Strategy (Independence + Ownership)
17:54 “Strip It” Strategy: Use Streaming as Promo, Drive to Your Site
21:10 LaRussell’s DTC Proof: $1,000 Backyard Show
23:46 Why Fans Still Pay for Music (Emotional Connection + Storytelling)
25:23 100 Diehards Explained (Chipotle Analogy)
29:38 Reframe Mindset on Content and Branding
31:47 Why You Should Start DTC NOW 
47:10 Best DTC Tools to get Started
53:00 AI & Music: Using AI as a Tool (Patreon Bonus Tease)
59:25 Rapid Fire Rampage w/ Curtiss King

L.Dre breaks down how he went from a warehouse job, $30K in debt, and posting “into the void” to living off chill beats, streaming royalties, and brand deals with Honda, Samsung, Visa, and even a cat company.

If you’re an artist or producer thinking about quitting, this episode will show you how to pivot, keep going, and build a real full-time music business from home.

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Ari Herstand is an artist, educator and best-selling author of "How to Make It in the New Music Business". With his platform Ari's Take, he's helped tens of thousands of artists and is often referred to as the "poster child of DIY music". 

In this episode, he breaks down what "making it" actually means, how to avoid burnout as an artist, best way to build a team, and the strategies successful indie artists are using to make a living. 

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On this episode, we sit down with Futuristic – an artist, manager, and CEO who spends 100% of his time in the indie artist world. He’s not just using the game for his own career anymore… he’s obsessed with helping other independent artists win.

Yes, he turned millions of views into millions of dollars and built a seven-figure career off viral content. But today, most of his energy goes into managing indie artists, running an indie artist education platform, & building systems, content formats, and release strategies that other artists can plug into.

In this episode, he breaks down:
👉 Why this is both the best and worst time to be an indie artist
👉 Why 1M views doesn’t mean anything if you don’t know how to capitalize on it
 👉 How to master a repeatable content format
👉 How he uses whiteboards, time-blocking, batch content days, and to-do lists to run multiple artist careers
👉 Why your story, branding, and music all need to actually match
👉 The release strategy every indie artist should be using in 2026

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Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: Futuristic x One More Time Podcast
1:52 – Why 1 Million Views Today ≠ 1 Million Views in 2015
3:07 – The Content Grind: 75 Reels per Song & Surviving the Algorithm
4:28 – What “Independent Artist” Really Means in 2026
7:19 – Major Labels vs Indie Teams
9:05 – Artist, Manager, CEO: How Futuristic Balances All Three
13:18 – Should Artists Have Side Hustles?
14:39 – How Futuristic Manages His Time
18:44 – Futuristic “Nerd Raps in Compton”
22:44 – How to Capitalize on a Viral Moment as an Indie Artist
25:13 – Biggest Mistake After Going Viral
28:35 – Turning Viral Ideas Into Series & Shows
30:32 – Mindsets that are Holding Indie Artists Back
33:02 – Importance of Authenticity & Believability
38:58 – Most Common Futuristic Music Review Feedback
48:01 – Why Futuristic “Retired” from Rap to Focus on Educating Artists
50:24 – “Soul Goals”: Redefining Success for Your Real Life
51:38 – 2026 Release Strategy for Indie Artists
59:28 – Turning Your Music Skills Into Income
1:00:48 – Should You Sign to Another Artist?
1:03:06 – Rapid Fire Rampage with Futuristic

We sit down with Chris Herche, SVP at Create Music Group (recently valued at over $1B) to break down exactly how the modern record label operates in 2026.

We dig into:
👉 How indie labels are beating the majors
👉 Why A&R + digital marketing are the only two functions that matter
👉 New-era deal structures 
👉 What real artist development looks like today
👉 Why some artists win with tiny teams while others don’t grow at all
👉 The power of data, consistency, and sustained momentum
👉 The future of platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and AI in music
👉 How Create Music Group thinks about building labels, entrepreneurs, and artists

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0:00 – Full Circle Intro & Who Is Chris Herche?
1:05 – What’s Really Happening With Major Label Layoffs
7:02 – Defining the “Modern Record Label” in 2026
8:27 – Why A&R + Digital Marketing Run Everything Now
10:01 – New-Era Deal Structures & Track-Level Signings
13:20 – Is Artist Development Dead? (Chris Disagrees)
18:03 – How Indie Artists Can Develop Themselves
23:42 – Data, Consistency & Sustained Growth Over Time
28:31 – TikTok Will Go Away, YouTube Keeps Winning
31:26 – Young Teams, Interns & Building “Pods” Around Artists
43:13 – How the Industry Is (Actually) Thinking About AI
57:53 – Signing Sublime & Why Rock Might Be Coming Back
1:06:04 – Why Everyone Is Buying Catalogs Right Now
1:15:00 – Rapid Fire Rampage with Chris Herche

Director of Music Distribution at Genius/Worldstar Kayvan Daragheh breaks down why community is the new superpower for indie artists. 

We dive into building real fans, keeping them engaged, and why most artists lose the audience they already have by treating fans like customers instead of people.

Kayvan shares how he built “Kayvan’s House,” what modern A&Rs actually look for, and the mindset every artist needs to build a lasting career.

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Brian Freeman, creator of Cadillac Chronicles, breaks down how he accidentally built one of the most impactful music platforms today. 

We talk self-discovery, consistency, artist development, virality, and why performance/interview platforms matter more than ever. 

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Every artist dreams of being independent, but few talk about the price tag. LaRussell gets brutally honest about what it actually takes to stay indie: the money, the marketing, the mindset. 

In this episode, LaRussell breaks down how he funds his career, the ROI of spending $30K on a single release, content systems to reach 80M people monthly, and much more. 

This episode is for every artist who’s ever wondered: am I really built for the indie lifestyle?

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"Viral" has become a triggering word for most artists. The community is extremely divided: half lose sleep over going viral while the other half downplay it's importance.

In this episode, we break down the truths about what "going viral" ACTUALLY means for artists. 

What you'll learn:
🔂 Practical definition of "viral" and a mindset shift on how to approach it
🔂 Pre-viral readiness checklist so you're prepared when something pops
🔂 How to react properly to a viral moment to maximize impact 
🔂 Case studies on Doja Cat and Steve Lacy's successful responses to virality

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“Music Marketing Doesn’t Have to Suck” is the motto of Zack Fischmann aka "Magic Nothing" - one of today’s most trusted voices helping independent artists navigate the chaos of music marketing.

In this episode, we unpack how artists can actually enjoy marketing by getting clear on their goals, leveraging AI the right way, and building brands that feel authentic - not forced.

Zack shares his takes on everything from:
✅ Why most artists feel lost or overwhelmed by marketing
✅ How AI will change the music business (and how to prepare)
✅ The one mindset shift that fixes 90% of artists’ problems
✅ Why “posting more” is NOT a strategy
✅ Ads vs organic growth - when to spend and when to wait

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0:00 – Intro: Meet Magic Nothing (Zack Fischman)
2:00 – The origin of “Magic Nothing”
5:06 – Marketing = world-building (brand, identity, vibe)
9:16 – AI is here—why ownership matters
12:00 – The future of generative music (and what it means)
13:52 – Sponsor: DistroKid
20:20 – 3 practical ways to use AI for marketing
23:05 – The unsexy superpower: clear goals
25:37 – Avoid bad deals by knowing your “why”
39:35 – Instagram doesn’t have to suck (content that fits goals)
44:01 – Ads 101: when to pay and what to expect
50:51 – The funnel: awareness → traffic → conversions → sales
54:00 – “Grower” vs “Shower” content (discovery vs community)
1:07:41 – Rapid Fire Rampage + closing takeaways