Our Curious Amalgam

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Our Curious Amalgam episodes

  • #402 Antitrust in Times of Change? A Conversation With Gail Slater

    Antitrust enforcement policy, like many aspects of our society, has been undergoing important changes over the past decade. What are the big picture trends driving these changes, and how are they reflected in the way the federal agencies enforce the antitrust laws? Former head of DOJ Antitrust Division Gail Slater (now with White & Case*) joins Lexi Michaud and Sergei Zaslavsky to discuss the impact of the unitary executive theory on antitrust, the states' growing role, AI policy, and other hot-button issues in antitrust enforcement. Listen to this episode for a wide-ranging discussion of antitrust enforcement under the current administration.

    *This episode was recorded when Gail held the role of Competition and Technology Policy Chair at American Compass, prior to Gail joining White & Case.

    With special guest:

    Gail Slater, White & Case


    Related Links:

    Commonplace, Gail Slater, "The Feds Don't Have an Antitrust Monopoly"
    Commonplace, Gail Slater, "Antitrust in the Time(s) of Tariffs" 


    Hosted by:

    Sergei Zaslavsky, O’Melveny & Myers and Lexi Michaud, Fried Frank

    45 min
  • #401 A Series of Unfortunate Events? Verisk Analytics v. AccuLynx and Lessons Learned

    Verisk’s $2.35 billion acquisition of AccuLynx unexpectedly drew FTC scrutiny when Verisk, after announcing its acquisition of AccuLynx, stopped pursuing an enhanced pricing integration with AccuLynx’s competitor ServiceTitan, prompting the FTC to explore a novel “market reset” theory. The Delaware Court of Chancery later held that Verisk could not terminate the deal because its own “willful conduct” was the primary cause of the deal failing to satisfy the HSR closing condition and ordered specific performance. What happened to make this deal go wrong, and what can we learn from it? David Pearl, partner at HSF Kramer, joins Jeny Maier and Brian Auricchio to discuss the FTC's market-reset theory, the distinction between “willful conduct” and “willful breach,” and the implications for drafting merger agreements and assessing antitrust risk.


    With special guest:
    David Pearl, Partner, HSF Kramer

    Related Links:
    Delaware Chancery Court Opinion


    Hosted by:
    Jeny Maier, Axinn and Brian Auricchio, Haug Partners

    27 min
  • #400 Is California Dreamin’ of Merger Challenges? Diving Into the Golden State’s HSR Notification Regime

    State-level pre-merger notification requirements are becoming more popular. But what is happening in California? Heather Greenfield, partner at White & Case, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Puja Patel to discuss how California's law fits into an overall notification strategy. Listen to this episode to learn more about what to expect and how to prepare when the law becomes effective on January 1, 2027.


    With special guest:
    Heather Greenfield, Partner, White & Case


    Hosted by:
    Jaclyn Phillips, Proskauer Rose and Puja Patel, Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton

    21 min
  • #399 Who Has the Inside Track on Litigation Risk? An In-House View From the Markets

    What does competition and litigation risk look like from inside a company operating at the intersection of financial markets, data, technology, and regulation? Kay Lynn Brumbaugh, Head of Litigation, Group Legal at London Stock Exchange Group plc (LSEG), joins Anora Wang and Matthew Hall to share an in-house perspective on managing disputes in a highly regulated global business. Listen to this episode to learn how issues involving data access, market infrastructure, AI, and overlapping regulatory regimes look from inside the client.


    With special guest:
    Kay Lynn Brumbaugh, Head of Litigation, Group Legal, London Stock Exchange Group plc

    Related Links:
    LSEG website


    Hosted by:
    Anora Wang, Quinn Emanuel and Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods

    34 min
  • #398 What's 340B? An Economist's View of the Recent Wave of 340B Litigation

    The Federal 340B Drug Pricing Program has grown from a modest drug discount program into a massive federal program involving pharmaceutical manufacturers, hospitals, pharmacies, insurers, and third-party administrators. But when can similar conduct by participants in this program suggest coordination or raise other competition concerns? Archan Ruparel, economist at Charles River Associates, joins Brian Auricchio and Jaclyn Phillips to discuss economic considerations when evaluating potential antitrust concerns relating to 340B. Listen to this episode to learn more about factors that can help analyze this conduct.


    With special guest:
    Archan Ruparel, Charles River Associates

    Hosted by:
    Brian Auricchio, Haug Partners and Jaclyn Phillips, Proskauer Rose

    28 min
  • #397 What’s Next for the ABA Antitrust Law Section? Stability, Balance, and Value

    What’s ahead for the ABA Antitrust Law Section in 2026–2027? Section Chair Melanie Aitken and Counsel to the Chair Christina Skinner join Our Curious Amalgam to discuss Melanie’s vision for the Section and her priorities for the coming year. Listen to this episode to learn how under Melanie’s leadership, the Section plans to double down on its value to members, strengthen its leadership and processes, and remain a home for vigorous debate and a broad range of perspectives across the antitrust community.

    With special guests:
    Melanie Aitken, Chair, ABA Antitrust Law Section and Christina Skinner, Counsel to the Chair, ABA Antitrust Law Section

    Hosted by:
    Anora Wang and Lexi Michaud, Fried Frank

    34 min
  • #396 Is EU Law on Abuse of Dominance Now Clear? The ECJ’s Judgment in Google Android

    The European Court of Justice's judgment in Google Android is one of the most consequential EU competition law judgments of the last decade. But why is it so important? Thomas Höppner, lawyer at Geradin Partners, joins Matthew Hall and Subrata Bhattacharjee to discuss the key issues raised and their relevance to abuse of dominance cases generally. Listen to this episode to learn more about counterfactual analysis, the relevance of context and the latest on the as-efficient-competitor test and principle.

    With special guest:
    Thomas Höppner, partner, Geradin Partners

    Related Links:
    European Court of Justice judgment, Google Android, 2 July 2026

    Hosted by:
    Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods and Subrata Bhattacharjee, Borden Ladner Gervais

    42 min
  • #395 Which Side of the V? Larry Buterman on Trying Antitrust Cases for the Government and Against It

    Larry Buterman is one of the rare antitrust attorneys who has successfully first chaired landmark cases both at the DOJ Antitrust Division and in private practice. In this career profile, co-hosts Derek Jackson and Lexi Michaud ask Larry about the differences and similarities in representing the DOJ versus representing a private party, about Larry's trial war stories (including his cross-examination of a famous athlete), about advice for aspiring litigators, and more. Listen to this episode to learn about the experience of an antitrust trial lawyer and how you might become one too.


    With special guest:
    Larry Buterman, Partner, Latham & Watkins LLP

    Hosted by:
    Derek Jackson, Cohen & Gresser and Lexi Michaud, Fried Frank

    38 min
  • #394 A Tribute to Randy Picker: Revisiting Episode #74 on the Implications of DOJ's Case Against IBM

    We are re-releasing this episode in tribute to Prof. Randy Picker, who passed away on August 15, 2026. In 2020, Randy joined co-hosts Anora Wang and John Roberti for an episode on the 13-year-long U.S. antitrust case against IBM brought in 1969, exploring how U.S. antitrust dealing with tech ranges from early government cases involving punch cards to government probes into today's platforms, and how antitrust enforcement can impact the technology landscape for decades later. Years later, the episode holds up remarkably well - the questions Randy raised about whether the antitrust past would repeat itself in the tech world remain just as central to today's platform antitrust cases and debates over Big Tech enforcement. We share Randy's episode again in celebration of his generosity, insight, and decades of contribution to antitrust scholarship.

    With special guest:
    Randal C. Picker, James Parker Hall Distinguished Service Professor of Law, University of Chicago Law School

    Related Links:
    Randal C. Picker, renowned legal scholar, 1959-2026

    Hosted by:
    Lexi Michaud, Fried Frank; Anora Wang; and John Roberti, Zaiger Linden Roberti & Pepe

    41 min
  • #393 Who Gets To Say the Price Is Right? State Regulation of AI Pricing

    Several U.S. states have recently passed legislation aimed at AI pricing tools that use consumer or competitor data. What is driving this spate of legislation, what different approaches are the states taking, and are the states sufficiently accounting for possible unintended consequences? In this episode, hosts Sergei Zaslavsky and Alicia Downey talk to Orrick partner Shannon Yavorksy about the pros and cons of AI pricing and the emerging regulatory patchwork in this area. Listen to this episode to hear about the latest developments in AI pricing regulation and what the future might hold.


    With special guest:
    Shannon Yavorksy, Partner, Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP

    Related Links:
    Shannon Yavorsky & David Curtis, Algorithmic Pricing Under Scrutiny: What You Need to Know (June 9, 2026)

    Hosted by:
    Sergei Zaslavsky, O’Melveny & Myers and Alicia Downey, Downey Law

    30 min

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