He Said, She Said

Our First Time Sharing Our Surrogacy Journey Publicly...


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We’re back with He Said, She Said! After a little pause, Ryan and Louise are opening up for the first time publicly about their fertility journey and the path they’re about to take together through surrogacy. They share the why, the how, and what this next chapter really means for them.


We also hear what it’s like now that Louise’s younger brother Sam is her boss, the unlikely (and hilarious) bond between Leo and Pete, and Ryan even shares his theory that Louise might secretly fancy Pete... Plus, we get a revealing glimpse of what Louise’s dad is actually like and uncover a shocking phrase Ryan and Louise are hoping Leo doesn’t start repeating at nursery!


This is a vulnerable, funny, and unfiltered conversation, full of laughter and moments that truly reflect what real life is like as parents, as a couple, and as individuals figuring it out together.


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(00:00) Introduction and new studio


(01:17) Our thoughts on Sam and Pete as our neighbours


(06:24) Does Louise fancy Pete?!


(10:15) Leo and Pete are now best friends


(15:10) Will Pete become Leo's godfather?


(19:00) Why we took a break from the podcast?


(22:13) The importance of communication in relationships 


(25:38) Our fertility journey and surrogacy decision…


(34:57) Leo’s hospital emergency 


(44:16) Human connection vs AI technology 


(53:00) The power of physical writing 


(59:15) Our time capsule letters to each other…


(01:01:35) Our goal as Parents to Leo

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