Say It How It Is

Our IVF Journey as Mrs & Mrs Joyce-Butchers


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In this intimate and inspiring episode, Ffion sits down with Welsh and Olympic rugby stars Alisha and Jasmine Joyce-Butchers to talk about their shared IVF journey, navigating fertility while being full-time professional athletes—and a married couple. With the Rugby World Cup looming, Alisha made the emotional decision to put family first, stepping away from the opportunity to compete this year and to focus on starting a family.


The couple opens up about the physical and emotional toll of IVF, how they supported each other while training and competing at the highest level, and what it means to prioritize motherhood in the peak of a sporting career. It’s a rare and powerful glimpse into the personal lives behind the public profiles—about sacrifice, strength, and redefining what success looks like.


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