In this powerful and truth-packed episode, Laurel Slade-Waggoner sits down with longtime friend and fellow counselor, Dr. David Clarke, to tackle some of the most common (and painful) questions they receive from those in narcissistic relationships.

They discuss how narcissists manipulate, gaslight, and keep their victims trapped—and why so many women ask, "Am I the narcissist?" (Hint: you're not!). Dr. Clarke shares his wisdom on righteous anger, trauma bonding, biblical reasons for divorce, why narcissists don't change, and how to protect your kids from their destructive influence.

Whether you're navigating a narcissistic spouse, co-parent, or family member, this episode is packed with clarity, validation, humor, and hope. Don't miss the encouragement and empowerment from two counselors who get it.

📚 Learn more about Dr. David Clarke at davideclarkephd.com

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📚 Books by Laurel Slade Wagoner: "Don't Let Their Crazy Make You Crazy" "Don't Let Their Crazy Make Your Kids Crazy"

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