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Legal talk doesn’t have to be boring — or terrifying. In this episode, we’re joined by our attorney, Alyssa, who specializes in creator businesses and knows exactly how to keep your digital products, courses, and offers safe.

We get real about the side of online business nobody talks about enough: what happens when you don’t have contracts, terms and conditions, or the right protections in place. From cease-and-desist letters to predatory law firms, Alyssa breaks down the risks creators face — and the simple steps you can take to avoid losing everything you’ve worked for.

Inside this conversation:

• The #1 legal mistake creators make when selling digital products
• Why a clickable “terms & conditions” box at checkout is non-negotiable
• How contracts become the “bad guy” so you don’t have to
• The story of how Alyssa’s dad lost his entire business overnight — and what it taught her
• The truth about scary demand letters, chargebacks, and protecting your income

If you’ve been putting off legal because it feels overwhelming, this episode will give you the clarity and confidence to finally check it off your list.

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Readiness is a myth. Movement pays. And my husband will be the first one to tell you this. 

Two years ago I brought him a $4,000 opportunity we did not have the cash for. He said do it. That one scary yes changed our life. In this unfiltered convo, we talk risk when you are scared, partner support that actually helps, and what happens when the breadwinner roles flip at home.

We get into:
 ✨ Why we spent $4,000 we did not have and what happened next
 ✨ How to talk to a cautious spouse and get real buy-in
 ✨ The money mindset our families modeled and why the long game wins
 ✨ Seasons when business takes over home life and how we handle the lows
 ✨ The “eat crow” bit, a dancing-gorilla cameo, and staying steady anyway

If you are waiting to feel ready, this episode is your nudge. Start, even if your hands shake.

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Failure hates a moving target. And if there’s anyone who embodies that truth, it’s today’s guest, Liz.

Liz started her online business journey in the “make money online” space, but when that path didn’t feel aligned, she pivoted into something she loved - face yoga. What started with a $7 course has grown into a thriving digital product business with brand deals, 194k Instagram followers, and a community that trusts her because she shows up as herself.

In this conversation, we dive into:
 ✨ Why pivoting isn’t failure - it’s the smartest move you can make
 ✨ How Liz used a $7 product to build momentum and authority
 ✨ The mindset shift that helped her monetize two completely different niches
 ✨ The truth about creating content that works for your audience (not someone else’s)
✨ How to land brand deals by leading with honesty, overdelivering, and not overthinking it

Liz proves that your niche doesn’t have to look like anyone else’s to be wildly profitable. She’s a reminder that using your brain, trusting your gut, and moving forward fearlessly is the real formula for growth.

Grab your headphones, pour a coffee (or a Prosecco 😉), and get ready for a mix of tough love, inspiration, and practical steps you can use in your own business today.

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I fell into a TikTok scroll hole and found teens getting PR packages with under 1,000 followers. That rabbit hole turned into a repeatable outreach system, free products from brands we already love, and real podcast sponsors. This is the step-by-step on how you can do it too.

In this episode you’ll learn:

• How to pitch brands you actually use without sounding spammy
• The email hook that gets replies in crowded PR inboxes
• Gifted vs paid collabs and when UGC is worth it
• The “one yes” strategy that snowballs future partnerships
• Follow-up timing that keeps you top of mind
• How to leverage a single collab into credibility across your channels
• Why luxury brands want smaller creators right now

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This isn’t a trend. It’s a formula. And it’s the exact one I’ve used to take Reels from 800 views to over half a million - repeatedly.

In this episode, we're walking you through the viral content structure I’m using right now (yep, the one behind that Reel). You’ll learn how to stop overthinking your videos, hook your audience immediately, and create content that actually converts.

No gimmicks. No “just be consistent” trash. Just the psychology-backed strategy that gets attention and builds connection - even if you’re in the middle of toddler chaos, second-guessing everything, and posting on the fly.

You’ll learn:

• The 3-part structure behind every viral Reel I’ve made
• Why views aren’t random (and how to make your message stick)
• How to use repeatability without sounding repetitive

If you’re ready to go from “WTF do I post?” to “omg it’s happening,” this is the episode for you.

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If you’ve ever looked at the polished, professional online business coaches and thought, “That’s not me... so can I still succeed?” - this episode is the answer you didn’t know you needed.

We’re breaking down the exact tools, systems, and (very imperfect) routines that run our multi-7-figure business... with kids screaming in the background, tabs open in every window, and zero makeup most days.

Inside, we’ll walk you through:

Every platform we’ve used (the good, the clunky, and the never again)

What we’re using right now to keep sales rolling in on autopilot

The $600 mistake we made trying to DIY our own course platform (don’t be us)

Why your business doesn’t have to look polished to be powerful

And how we structure our days around real life - not Slack pings and strategy calls

This is the behind-the-scenes look we wish someone gave us when we started. No gatekeeping. No filter. Just real tools for women who want a successful business without selling their souls to their screen (or the algorithm).

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You’ve hired the coaches. Bought the courses. Watched the trainings.
But you’re still not making money… and now you’re wondering if maybe someone should just build the whole thing for you.

We get it - but that’s not how this works.

In this episode, we’re breaking down:

• Why no one else can build a business that actually lasts for you
• The mindset traps keeping smart women stuck (and broke)
• What to do after you realize your last investment didn’t work
• The exact tools we use to shift from “stuck” to strategic
• Why “refund culture” is ruining your energy - and your results

This isn’t just another motivational pep talk. It’s your wake-up call to take ownership, stop waiting for a savior, and finally build the business you keep saying you want.

If you’ve ever thought, “I’ve done everything… why isn’t it working?”
This episode is your next move.

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If you’ve ever thought, “Should I just make a $27 ebook and call it a day?” - this is your wake-up call.

In this episode, we’re pulling back the curtain on the four digital product types that built our multi-7-figure brand (without spending months filming courses or designing pretty PDFs that no one buys).

💸 You’ll learn:

 • The truth about what actually sells (and what just looks good on Instagram)
• Why most new creators are building the wrong first offer
• The 4 digital product formats we swear by - and how to know which one is right for you
• How we used these to go from “What should I sell?” to 6-figure launches in a matter of months

We’re not holding back. This is the exact strategy we’d use to rebuild our business from scratch - with no audience, no budget, and no niche.

If you’re tired of guessing and ready to actually make money from your ideas, this episode is where it starts.

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You’re expected to work like you don’t have kids… and parent like you don’t have a job.

Welcome to the episode where we rip the mask off what it really means to be a woman in the workforce - and why that double standard pushed us into building a $2M business from scratch.

We’re talking:
•The moment we realized our 9-5 jobs were never built for working moms
•Toxic leadership, corporate burnout, and the breaking point that started it all
•The emotional tug-of-war between motherhood and ambition
•Why more women are starting online businesses (and why it’s not just “for fun”)
•The messy mindset shifts that helped us finally quit - and never look back

If you’ve ever sacrificed PTO to take your kid to the doctor, been passed over for a promotion because “you’re a mom,” or felt like your paycheck went straight to daycare… this one’s for you.

It’s raw. It’s real. And it might be the push you’ve been needing

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Welcome to the episode where we finally spill the thing everyone pretends isn’t true: you do not need to post 24/7 to make consistent sales - and honestly, trying to keep up with that pace is what’s killing your conversions.

We’re talking:

• The exact lead gen strategy we’ve been using behind-the-scenes
•  Why “just post more” is the laziest advice on the internet
•  What we do instead to fill our pipeline with warm, qualified leads
•  How we get sales without being online 24/7 (or selling our souls)
•  And the sneaky way we turn lurkers into clients without a single pitch

If you’re exhausted from trying to out-algorithm the algorithm and wondering how the hell people are selling without burning out… this one’s for you.

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