Katie Hays is an author, church planter, pastor, educated at MIT, Yale and Princeton: and she taught us a new word: "Fundagelical."  That's what her and I (Joey) were, before going through the scary process of faith change.  With her new book ("God Gets Everything God Wants") as the context, we discuss a variety of topics:

-How we were once both convinced of our narrow view of faith being the only right one.
-Accepting the bible has multiple "takes" on a particular subject and inerrancy falls a part.
-How evangelicals' "gospel news" may be incomplete
- Blame the "capital C church" needs to accept
-The "slippery slope" of deconstruction that led to our freedom
-The humility required for deconstruction.
-Rarely does  one set out to deconstruct her faith.
-What the church has learned from the LGBTQ community
-The relentless faith and devoutness of a "deconstructed Christian."
-The pain of loved ones' misunderstandings of your deconstruction 
- When Joey's mom was with child (with Joey), prophesies were made about Joey by a spirit-filled prayer group of Catholic women 

On a "fun scale" of 1-10, this conversation was a 10 for me.   -- Joey

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Continuing a conversation that was started on this podcast 2 years ago, part six of a series that has taken a behind the scenes look at Joey’s journey through a mental health crisis in 2019.  

Joining today are four of Joey’s closest friends, Tim McAdams, Sarah Eller.
And Amy Alderman, Robbie Madison, both also co-hosts of the show.  

The three reflect on his transparency leading up to this crisis and the effects it had on their processing of the situation at hand, back in 2019.  They discuss whether they dealt with fear around the potential of Joey losing his life; and how they processed knowing that the friend of theirs, who was battling for his life, was also pastor of the church that all four  considered their family.  A true story of friendship, the power of family and the need for connection.  Sarah Eller, Tim McAdams, Amy Alderman and Robbie Madison, special thanks for your love, grace and commitment to your boy. 

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My Depressive Episode: Why Talk About Our Hell
My Depressive Episode 2: “To See a Son Suffer”
My Depressive Episode 3 (w/ Chip Judd): Anxiety and How it All Began
My Depressive Episode 4: Our Pastors Walked With Us & the Mental Institution
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Adarius Gerard Jenkins
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Son of Kip and Leenetta Smalls, brother of Kazadia Smalls

Honoring all who are mourning the loss of a loved one, during this Mother's Day 2022. 

Sunday morning of June 9th 2013 started just like any other day, but by the time the sun set, a metaphorical darkness had settled in the hearts of Leenetta and Kip Smalls, as their minds were forced to grapple with the prospect of their precious 12-year-old Darius not coming back home to them on this side of heaven.

This is the story of the human experience.  Not one person is in the clear from pain like this, it's always potentially right around the corner.  Life gives the potential for the highest highs and unbearable lows. 

What stands out in this story is the abundant, God-given peace that was  received by these suffering parents, peace that guided them through the unbearable pain they weren't sure they could survive.

This is also a  "2 Corinthians 1 story," one in which Paul says "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.......And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort." 

Just one year after their loss, Kip and Leenetta were afforded the opportunity to pass along the supernatural comfort they had received to those in similar shoes.   

May this story of peace amidst such agony, be an encouragement to us all.  If life turns for us in a way that brings to our hearts insurmountable pain, may we have faith in a hope that  God's love for us will prevail, even if we have no eyes to see how God will do it. 

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Co-hosts Robbie Madison and Matt Oxley, join host Joey Svendsen with the original purpose of continuing a conversation from episode 340, “Courage Not to Cancel the Racist,"  asking the question, "what about the statues of racists?"

We accomplished this while at the same time, Joey believes the Holy Spirit moved in real time, opening his eyes to a facet of his white privilege that was sobering to see. Robbie was in an English town where actors still practice "black face" and Joey shares how he doesn't want to have the label of "woke," nor does he want to be seen as "not woke."

Thankful for my listeners who let me learn in front of them; also happy to be able to release content like today for other people who find interesting, things like the amount of money one would have to be paid in order to get a "genitalia tattoo" on his/her arm.  -- Joey

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[with special appearances from Pete Enns, John Mark McMillan, Brandan Robertson, Jared Svendsen and Hayne Griffen]

The original intent of the episode was to get deep into the theology of the Cross of Jesus, and Brian Zahnd covered us [profoundly]  in that department.  We discuss with Brian how the church explains too much the “death and resurrection of Jesus,” stripping it from its beauty and power.  Also how the western world, despite the profound baggage it’s delivered, also gets credit for the “Christ infused convictions” it's delivered to the world; and according to Brian, has greatly changed for the better, how we see dignity and worth in all of humanity. 

What if God exists but Jesus never came and died?  What kind of shit storm would we be in then?  We talk Jesus’ non-violent approach to life and whether it applies to national governments.  Penal substitution is what the Western church world is stuck on and according to Brian Zahnd, it’s an abhorrent theological approach to the Cross.   

With a Pastor praying at the end, an interview that might as well have been the best Easter sermon ever, and testimonies galore from some of your “church fam,” this is your Easter service, "PWNA style" of course.  

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Welcome to a new (and permanent) angle of Pastor With No Answers Podcast.  

Ellen Mauro, Amy Alderman and Liz Miller, all mothers and wives,  one hates her job as a stay at home mom, each medicated for anxiety and really bad OCD.   One seems to be pro-violence,  one swings both ways, each  of them think critically enough not to cancel everyone who makes a mistake, and all three want to follow Jesus as best as she can.  

We discuss Liz’s journey of being widowed for 10 years and recently getting married this past January.  Liz processes with us evangelicals' perspective of her as a “broken woman" due to her gay marriage.  We discuss the irony that religious organizations -- full of promiscuity, sexual scandal, and pedophilia themselves-- are the ones shouting the loudest about sexual sin.  

As a PART II of this episode, Pricilla Svendsen joins Amy, Ellen and Joey to discuss different facets of "the Chris Rock getting popped by the Fresh Prince" craziness.  As this discussion unfolds, it’s discovered that Amy and Ellen are going to drive one another crazy for years to come.  Awesome!  For starters, Amy supports corporal punishment for kids while Ellen is dumbfounded why southerners don’t call this abuse.    

"Violence is wrong" -- Ellen 
"Chris Rock deserved to get his ass kicked worse." -- Amy

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Derek and I have hung out online doing podcast episodes  for the last 7 years or so and we've talked very little about Christian faith.  In this episode, that's the focus; Derek's faith  - Joey

Deconstruction is the buzz word.  Those who "deconstruct" typically demolished "static pillars" of fundamentalism and over time, new ones go up.  There exists different beliefs, but same old regimented, manmade approach to spirituality.

People who sense a faith change coming on may have been living in a mindset in which certain beliefs need to be true in order for God to be real. This paves the way to an arduous road that can end in so many places.

What does Derek struggle with?  Seeing the church with nuance.

What does he artistically regret?  His ego in earlier work. 

We learn about "Calvinist Rap" that Derek took part in for a spell, we toil with the thought of "good samaritan type people," who live a life of love and service (all the things Jesus said were most important) to all, but do not have "correct" beliefs.   How in the living hell do people (i.e. John Piper) know so much about infinite God?  What's it look like to be a Christian in 2022?  All of this and more with fam of the podcast. 

We talk J-Cole, and at the beginning of episode, Matt and Robbie help Joey process his "did I steal from Wal-Mart" situation. 

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[At top of episode, Ellen, Ryan and Joey discuss Ryan's ignoring of God, why it's a bit morbid when a Christian asks "was he/she a believer" after some one dies, and how the church is trying to convince Ellen's friend to stay with her cheating husband because he "reads the word" and "it was only a blowjob."]

For our main talk, biographical author, George Azar, lived it and wrote a book for us to peer into his journey from leading vocational ministry as a pastor (and as a gay man) to “eventually having enough" and leaving Christianity all together.  He shares his story here.  

Joey and George discuss the senselessness of appealing to “traditional theology” as a standard not to evolve past for the reason of "God ever changes."  This ideology seems to assume that God hasn’t anything further to say about the teachings in the bible and no more revelatory direction for humanity.  Pretty boring God, if you ask me.  

Joey shares how hard it was to maintain his un-affirming views of homosexuality when close friends of his shed light on her/his relationship with the Holy Spirit, the journey of diligent searching for the truth of God’s view on sexuality, and the current peace they have found in pursuing gay companionship. 

George and Jack reflect on the prospect of him being an adult gay man in the very much less accepting world we lived in, just 20 years ago.  Joey takes the opportunity to get a “Billy Graham Rule” critique from a gay man, the two discuss the dynamics of gay Christians fellowshipping with non-affirming ones, and Joey asks if the word “homosexual” is even appropriate terminology anymore. 

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BONUS EPISODE

This situation is so intriguing, if you're interested in human behavior.  So much here.   

But this episode is like the RobCast.  There's just one person talking here.  The big difference  between this episode and the RobCast is that they have Rob Bell, he's smart, and has tons of answers.    I have a smart therapist who has helped shape how I see humans and encouraged me to be curious about our tendency to mark people, due to certain actions, as "good" or "bad."  I find this sort of categorization  very UN-Christian and the less i do this to others, the more mercy and grace i have for myself.     -- Joey Svendsen

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