[appearing on this episode: Joey Svendsen, Amy Alderman and guest, David Schirduan]

David Schirduan grew up with a very similar faith-background as Joey's, but the biggest difference?  David spent a part of his "youth group, high school days" in the youth group that Joey led almost 20 years ago.

David creates literature for folks who enjoy role-playing games, many of these games along the same lines of Dungeons and Dragons.   Growing up, both Joey and David were taught that these types of games belonged in the same category as tarot cards, ouija boards and other satanic tools that should be avoided due to the sorts of evil spirits they are likely connected to.  David is still a practicing Christian and comes on the show to shed some light on Dungeons and Dragons and walk us through how role-playing games work, hoping to lessen the stigma and eliminate some unwarranted fears amongst the christian community. 

With co-host Amy Alderman providing staunch pushback, these two alongside Joey Svendsen, talk through the morals of dabbling in things that are seen by most Christians as evil that needs to be avoided.  David walks Joey through a role-playing game scenario and explains how role-playing games can be used for beauty, connection and healthy creativity.

Technical Grimoire - find all of David's stuff!

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[Contributors to this Episode:  Matt Oxley, Hayne Griffen, Joey Svendsen,]

Co-hosts Matt Oxley and Hayne Griffen share their stories of deconstruction, Matt all the way to unbelief and Hayne, into "belief territory" that most evangelicals would deem heresy.  The two dig deep into Hayne's story including his upbringing and how he now parents his own kids.  Matt laments on the lack of appreciation for the pain experienced by former Christians who have deconstructed out of the faith.  They both share how seasons of anger was a part of their journeys. 

This podcast episode is courtesy of Matt Oxley's, The Great Deconstruction Podcast

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[Contributors to this Episode: Joey Svendsen, Liz Miller, Stoy Prioleau, Matt Oxley]

Stoy's cultural upbringing and mentoring (or lack of) instilled various perspectives about sex, marriage and success, that he'd later have to grow out of.   Joey and Liz lament over inappropriate hip-hop lyrics, having sons who love hip-hop, and Matt exhorts Christians to repent from capitalism.   

Stoy also reminisces on middle school lingo amongst him and his black peers, throwing Joey into gleeful middle school nostalgia, remembering as kids hanging with Stoy and other black peers of Joey's. 

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[Contributors to this Episode: Joey Svendsen, Hayne Griffen, Jack Hoey, Derek Kubilus]

In EP10 of the Podcast, 4 months or so ago, Derek Kubilus introduced us to his perspective on a Universal salvation plan carried out by Jesus, captured in his new book, Holy Hell.  Regular guest, Jack Hoey, read the book and didn't have a positive reaction, even felt like it was contemptuous.  Hosts Joey Svendsen and Hayne Griffen beg to differ, and the four discuss.

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[in this episode: Dr. Tiffany Yecke Brooks and host, Joey Svendsen]

Dr. Tiffany Yecke Brooks joins to talk her newest book, Holy Ghosted: Spiritual Anxiety, Religious Trauma, and the Language of Abuse, which is a follow-up to her previous book Gaslighted by God.  Together, her and Joey discuss spiritual anxiety (including scrupulosity), the important difference between deconstructing faith and deconstructing God, and how spiritual questions are a sign of closeness rather than separation from God, the damaging characteristics of toxic religious communities, and many other themes found in Holy Ghosted.

More about "Holy Ghosted": Equipping readers to understand and name tactics of spiritual abuse and manipulation, each chapter covers a different method of control found in toxic religious communities--including legalism, indoctrination, praise, and fear--and how to identify and respond to it healthily. Brooks also reframes scriptural passages commonly weaponized by those in power. Weaving together interviews with diverse Christians and her own experience, Brooks empowers readers to trust their intuition, seek truth fearlessly, and love God and neighbor without restraint or fear.

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[on this episode: Jed Payne, Joey Svendsen, and Jared Svendsen]

"Fam of the podcast," Jed Payne and literally family, Joey's big brother, Jared Svendsen join to talk conspiracies; touching on 911 and the moon landing, but focussing on the possibility of aliens.  They also discuss skepticism, media biases, biblical implications of all of it and whether or not they'd enter a UFO if they got the invite from one of those little green homies.   

Jed is a co-host of this show and also has his own podcast, called Church and Other Drugs.  

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[on this episode: Dr. Brian Boxer Wachler and Joey Svendsen]

Dr. Brian Boxer Wachler, MD started a TikTok account, began to acquire a very large following and literally became hooked.  After he started to ignore his family because of the "TikTok addiction," his wife and daughters took matters into their own hands, pointed out to him the severity of his issue and pleaded for him to get help.  Now clean from his addiction, he decided to do his own research on social media addiction and his findings are captured in his book, "Influenced: The Impact of Social Media on Our Perception."

Telling his story on media outlets such as Fox News, Dr. Brian educates others from a place of humility.  Discovering firsthand the allure of being "followed," "liked," and the ensuing Dopamine hits each exposure elicits, if it wasn't for his caring  and persistent family, the doctor may still be locked in for more Dopamine, constantly obsessing and coming back for more.   

His book outlines the dangers of social media, sometimes (as he claims) just as deadly as a gun, but it also highlights the good coming from this 21st Century invention that has changed the world, producing many out-of-control addictions like the one Dr. Brian overcame.  Dr. Brian shares his story and his findings. 

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[hosts contributing on this episode: Joey Svendsen]

What if all Christian Youth Group Ministries could be turned into Youth Centers that were instrumental in supporting youth of all faiths, backgrounds, and sexualities?

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[hosts contributing on this episode: Joey Svendsen, Stoy Prioleau, Amy Alderman, Robbie Madison, Matt Oxley, Jed Payne]

Joey opens up about what he feels may be too much personal apathy about politics and voting.  After sharing with a handful of the show's co-hosts on this one, he's met with more cynicism than he can handle.  Four of the five  present are convinced that the USA "political machine" doesn't care about people; only getting more votes for their team and acquiring more money and power.  And the guilt that many Christians try to push onto those who aren't more involved in political activism isn't merited, nor fair, according to some of the Christians on this one. 

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[hosts contributing on this episode: Joey Svendsen]

Corey Nathan, host of the Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other Podcast, joins the show to discuss a weakness of his.  He has a very hard time keeping composure when it comes to difficult discussions about politics and religion.  But deep in his heart, as a former Jewish man, now Christian, he knows that love is the goal.  And thus, the birth of his podcast. 

Joey and Corey talk how much of society sees people with bad beliefs as bad people who should be scorned; and there's certainly no aiming to humanize them.  Joey admits to sentiments about some one who he fears will anger people, but is finally learning what may be the true meaning of following Christ.  Corey believes that most people are in the "exhausted majority," people who truly are "done with" the hatred and polarity, but their exhaustion breeds silence.  There's some political talk as Corey is a fan of what Biden has done so far, and the two discuss the backwardness of believing deeply in a conviction and trying to spread that zeal by yelling and belittling others. 

On this Episode, we welcome:
Corey Nathan / Instagram / Podcast

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