Special Episode! In early 2025, Pastor Gary Mason visited Phoenix for a conference. Caleb joined Lisa Jernigan and Vermon Pierre for a conversation with Gary about his experience pastoring during the Irish Troubles. This discussion weaves together global insights and local applications for fostering Jesus-centered reconciliation. Together, they reflect on how faith communities can become catalysts for healing in divided times.

About Gary:Rev. Dr. Gary Mason is a Methodist minister and founder of Rethinking Conflict, a Belfast-based initiative focused on reconciliation and peacebuilding. He played a pivotal pastoral role during the Irish Troubles, helping to bridge deep divisions between Protestant and Catholic communities in Northern Ireland. With decades of experience in political peacemaking, Gary now advises governments, faith leaders, and community organizations around the world. He is recognized globally for his work in conflict resolution and the role of faith in healing fractured societies.

About Lisa:Lisa Jernigan is the co-founder and executive director of Amplify Peace, a global movement dedicated to promoting peacemaking through education, immersive experiences, and community engagement. With decades of experience in church leadership and global missions, Lisa empowers individuals and churches to be transformative agents of peace and justice. Her work spans international conflict zones and domestic communities alike, with a focus on elevating marginalized voices. Lisa is also a sought-after speaker and podcast host committed to reimagining leadership through the lens of compassion and equity.

About Vermon:Pastor Vermon Pierre is the lead pastor of Roosevelt Community Church in downtown Phoenix, Arizona, where he is committed to gospel-centered ministry and multi-ethnic community transformation. A graduate of Princeton University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Vermon is also a thought leader in the areas of racial reconciliation and justice within the church. He is the author of Dearly Beloved and serves with The Gospel Coalition, contributing to national conversations on Christian ethics, leadership, and urban ministry. Through preaching, mentoring, and public engagement, Vermon fosters a church culture grounded in both biblical truth and restorative action.

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