9 to 5ish with theSkimm

Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, co-founder and CEO of Promise: "When you feel like you're fighting for justice, it empowers you in a different way because it's not just for you…. And I think that makes you very powerful."


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Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins has always been focused on creating change. She started as a leader in the labor and environmental movements, and she’s now using tech to create impact at scale. Her company, Promise, is a financial services tech platform tackling criminal justice reform. And this week, Phaedra joined us to share how she’s become a strong advocate by tuning out critics. It’s something she learned from the late musician Prince… who was also her old boss. More on that in the episode. 

In this episode, Phaedra told us why she’s good at managing crisis (4:16), what she learned from her time as Prince’s manager (13:40), and her approach to fundraising (28:00).

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