Plato's Pod: Dialogues on the works of Plato

Plato's Pod: Dialogues on the works of Plato

Download on the App Store

Plato's Pod: Dialogues on the works of Plato episodes

  • Plato’s Ion: The Stories That Souls Trade
    “We are all Ions,” one participant observed, and maybe that’s truly the case if each one of us is a link in a storytelling chain. In Plato’s dialogue the Ion, Socrates reminds the title character, who is a proponent of the poet Homer, that since Homer represented an idea, Ion is representing Homer’s representation. With each successive representation, some of the original idea is altered to suit the memory and external influences acting on the storyteller. Is each one of us acting as a representative of a representative of one, or many, original idea(s)? Plato’s short dialogue was the subject of a great discussion and originality of ideas among members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups on June 11, 2023. We concluded that while, like Ion, we all need inspiration, care must be taken to avoid the wrong path because every one of us learns from our failures. In Socrates’ analogy, of the divine power as a magnetic stone that moves surrounding souls as if they were iron rings, where do we stand in relation to each other? What if, as one participant observed, Socrates intended to represent philosophy itself – the original idea – in the magnetic stone, as the timeless presence always in our midst?
    1 hr 52 min
  • Platio's Symposium, Part 3: Knowledge Versus Mastery, and Love's Light in The Cave

    In the opening of the last third of Plato’s Symposium, the very drunken Alcibiades erupts in a comic and dramatic demonstration of his love for Socrates. When members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups met on May 28, 2023, we noted that whereas the previous six speeches were about love in the abstract, Plato chose to end the dialogue with the practical. In our discussion, Alcibiades was compared to the prisoner in the cave of Plato’s Republic, caught in between, and pained by, the contrast of the light of love’s beauty and the shadowy images on the cave wall. One observed that Alcibiades was trying to leave the cave, but without the right reasons. And at the end of our discussion, we came to see that Alcibiades’ inability to escape his love from Socrates is a metaphor for Athens’ inability to escape Socrates, and that Socrates’ own fate may be an example of the dangers when the enlightened reveal the truth, of which the prisoner in the cave was warned. It was a fabulous conclusion to three amazing meetings on Plato’s Symposium.

    1 hr 49 min
  • Plato's Symposium, Part 2: Love and the Immortal Good

    Speeches on love, first by Aristophanes, then Agathon, followed by Socrates who relates the wisdom of Diotima, lead us to wonder whether love is, as Diotima says, the mortal human's search for the immortality of the universe. On May 14, 2023, members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups gathered to piece together the grains of truth from the first six speakers in the symposium, or drinking party, attended by hungover Athenians. In our discussion, we agreed that love is expressed not only between humans, but by philosophers who are, by definition, lovers of wisdom. Some fascinating perspectives on love, and love's purpose, emerged. Our dialogue spoke to themes that touch on an eternal equality of division between one soul and another, and the fluid motion of all souls among the one. Perhaps, as Diotima observed, we are all pregnant and looking to give birth in beauty - whether the birth is that of another human, or the inception of an enduring memory of a great human craft. As one member observed, the childless da Vinci gave birth to a beautiful memory that grows stronger in time - and in this great discussion, some memorable observations were made on love, the thing we all want more of.

    1 hr 53 min
  • Plato's Symposium, Part 1: Love's Poetry, Bearing Individual and Universal Truths
    In our first of three sessions on Plato's Symposium, the dialogue on love that occurs among a group of hungover Athenians, participants from the Toronto, Calgary, and Philosophy Meetup groups pointed to grains of truth in the poetry of love presented by three speakers at the symposium. On April 30, 2023 we met to read parts of the three speeches, each of which examines love from a different perspective, to look for a common thread. Is love a god that rules over us, or is love ours to fashion? Love, several members reminded us, is not just between people, but also between people and knowledge - thus the word philosophy, which means "love of wisdom." The path to wisdom is paved with knowledge, and there were some uniquely powerful expressions of knowledge that harmonized in our dialogue on the theme of love.
    1 hr 47 min
  • Plato’s Hippias Minor: Truth, Lies, and Feedback Loops
    What is the truth? In our previous discussion, we heard the conclusion of Socrates that measurement is the greatest skill that we can exercise. The title character of Plato’s Lesser Hippias, or Hippias Minor, is unable to separate cause and effect in the motions of time, and the dialogue challenges not only Hippias but the reader to measure the difference that separates truth and lie – not just in objective physical outcomes but also in subjective value judgments. It’s a matter of special importance now, 2,400 years later, as technology is used to generate and broadcast value judgments globally, often anonymously and of questionable intent. As one participant pointed out, truth and lie can both be present at the same time and, as the observer, it’s the soul’s job to measure its own relative perspective in distinguishing the difference. Recalling the division of the line of knowledge that Socrates describes in The Republic, gauging differences in perspective may be our guide to the path of truth that connects our hypotheses to the first principles of things – especially with predictive technologies like ChatGPT that we discussed in the conclusion.
    1 hr 33 min
  • Plato's Protagoras, Part 3: In Virtue of What Does Good Outweigh Bad?
    In concluding our 3-part series on Plato’s Protagoras, a consensus may have emerged that virtue is not a universal form – but if it has no consistent definition, what is virtue, and can it be taught? Members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups convened on March 26, 2023 to consider the teachability of virtue, which is the subject of Plato’s dialogue. If virtue is really a form of knowledge, as Socrates concludes, then it can be taught, but that would contradict Socrates’ initial view that virtue is not teachable. Meanwhile, the position of the sophist Protagoras appears to have changed to the point where he argues that virtue is not a matter of knowledge, and so as Socrates points out, the upshot of the discussion is “topsy-turvy.” Maybe the real question, as one participant observed, “"What is the motivation of these people teaching virtue, what is the advantage...?"
    1 hr 52 min
  • Plato's Protagoras, Part 2: Is Virtue One Thing or Many?

    Is there a first principle of virtue? If virtue is knowledge that can be taught, does the teacher need to know the limits of virtue as a single thing - or does virtue consist of a range of attributes, each with different limits that are somehow connected? These and more questions on the nature of virtue were the subject of discussion on March 12, 2023 among members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups. In considering the dialogue between Socrates and Protagoras, the former holding that virtue is unteachable and the latter claiming qualifications as its teacher, some felt that Socrates established unfair advantage over the sophist with words and leading questions. Is virtue a matter of social conventions, and has Socrates met his match? At one point even Socrates questions his own abilities, as he attempts to demonstrate flaws in the knowledge claimed by Protagoras. Or, is virtue knowable only through a process of dialectic, if all knowledge is recollection as Socrates stated in the Meno? We will attempt to reach some conclusions, and maybe even define the thing that we call virtue, in two weeks' time in our final session on Plato's Protagoras.

    1 hr 53 min
  • Plato's Protagoras, Part 1: Can Virtue Be Taught?

    Plato’s dialogue Protagoras revolves around the question of whether virtue can be taught. If it can, then how do we define virtue? Is there a universal form for virtue, one thing alone that defines virtue regardless of our cultural, religious, or family circumstances? If virtue is not taught, how would anyone acquire the essential attributes that are needed to govern societies such as ours? Whether the sophist Protagoras has a valid justification for his selling of knowledge or not, Socrates’ position that virtue cannot be taught came under fire during the discussion of members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups on February 26, 2023. We will reconvene on March 12 for the second part of the Protagoras, where the title character and Socrates continue their battle of words, each with a fierce dedication to his differing views. Socrates is on the ropes more than once, and we begin to wonder if he has met his match in a roomful of sophists.

    1 hr 54 min
  • Plato's Philebus, Part 3: The Philosopher's Arithmetic

    In our exercise of reason to judge the harmonious mixture of pleasure and knowledge in the good life, Socrates ranks first the skill of measurement. In the conclusion of Plato’s Philebus, we learn that measuring the combination of limits in becoming and the unlimitedness of being requires a special type of ability. On February 12, 2023, members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups met to consider the distinction that Socrates makes between the “Philosopher’s arithmetic” and the everyday mathematics taught in school. Acknowledging that limits in the present state of becoming are unknowable, the philosopher continuously divides combinations of things to find their unities. In a wide-ranging and fascinating discussion, we touched on the two key values of zero and one-half in the soul’s recollection of unity, and the possible application of the philosopher’s arithmetic in understanding quantum mechanics.

    1 hr 53 min
  • Plato’s Philebus, Part 2: Does the Universe Have a Soul and Reason?

    Where does the human soul come from, if not the universe of which we are part? The question that Socrates poses relates to his assertion that everything comes to be from a cause, as he and Protarchus search for the causes of the soul’s pleasure in things that in time neither are, nor ever were, nor ever will, be. In the second of three meetings on Plato’s Philebus, members of the Toronto, Calgary, and Chicago Philosophy Meetup groups met on January 29, 2023 to consider the unlimited nature of pleasure within the limits of becoming, and the role of reason in bringing harmony to the good life. We explored the distinction between memory, which is what the soul experiences together with the body, and recollection which the soul later experiences on its own, and the importance of the soul’s capacity to divide a thing’s general form into its many unities until it finds the “common element”. Where does reason find the common element – perhaps in the middle of every thing?

    1 hr 40 min

About Plato's Pod: Dialogues on the works of Plato

From the publisher's feed

Welcome to Plato's Pod, a podcast of discussions on the dialogues of Plato, the philosopher and geometer who wrote nearly 2,400 years ago. Hosted by amateur philosopher James Myers, the first four…

More shows like Plato's Pod: Dialogues on the works of Plato

Philosophize This! by Stephen West

Philosophize This!

15,234 Listeners

The Higherside Chats by Greg Carlwood

The Higherside Chats

3,425 Listeners

In Our Time: Philosophy by BBC Radio 4

In Our Time: Philosophy

862 Listeners

Earth Ancients by Cliff Dunning

Earth Ancients

3,237 Listeners

Pints With Aquinas by Matt Fradd

Pints With Aquinas

6,744 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

111,766 Listeners

The Journal. by The Wall Street Journal & Spotify Studios

The Journal.

6,069 Listeners

The MeidasTouch Podcast by MeidasTouch Network

The MeidasTouch Podcast

50,430 Listeners

The Ancients by History Hit

The Ancients

3,378 Listeners

The Rest Is History by Goalhanger

The Rest Is History

15,683 Listeners