In episode 78, we continued our rich and engaging conversation with Autum Romano, an educator, bodyworker, and author from Colorado Springs, CO. This is the second in a two-part conversation exploring polyvagal theory and its relevance to personality development, healing, and human connection.

We deepen our exploration of polyvagal theory and its connections with developmental experience, neurodivergence, and positive disintegration.

Together, we unpack:

* How neuroception and energetic sensitivity shape relational dynamics

* The intersection of PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), trauma, and cues of safety

* How overexcitabilities can become dynamisms that help us grow in relationship

* The role of relationships in co-regulation, especially for intense and neurodivergent individuals

* Why true connection is essential to healing and development—and how hard it is to cultivate in unsafe environments

Chris reflects on their own experience as a gifted PDAer, highlighting how sensitivity to energy and autonomy needs has shaped their emotional regulation and social interactions. Autum and Emma both offer powerful insights about learning to tune into not just how others affect us, but how we impact them, too.

This episode is rich with hard-earned wisdom about nervous system safety, embodied growth, and the power of safe, attuned relationships. If you’ve ever felt “too much,” struggled with co-regulation, or wondered how to find the green zone in your life—this one’s for you.

Links from this episode

Autum’s website

Body Wisdom and the Polyvagal Theory (Autum’s book)

PDA: Resistance and Resilience podcast with Marni Kammersell and Chris Wells

Episode 56: Autoethnography for Personal Growth

Living with Intensity

PDA North America

Intense World Theory

Dr. Stephen Porges, Safe and Sound Protocol

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* The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

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