Guests Hui-Wen Sato, Lisa Pahl, and Dr. Sunita Puri join host Lisa Keefauver for a special episode of Grief is a Sneaky Bitch Podcast produced with nonprofits ‪@medicinalmediaorg‬ and ‪@unlikelycollaborators‬

One doctor, one nurse, and two social workers walked into a podcast studio to explore what does it really mean to live honestly with grief, caregiving, and the hard decisions we’re never taught to navigate? Earlier this year, Lisa brought together three extraordinary voices who have spent their lives at the intersection of healing, meaning-making, and end-of-life care:

✨ Hui-wen Sato — pediatric ICU nurse, writer, and advocate for courageous conversations

✨ Lisa Pahl — hospice social worker, co-creator of The Death Deck, and champion for compassionate dialogue

✨ Dr. Sunita Puri — palliative care physician, author of That Good Night—and so much more than what she does

Together, they unpack the emotional labor behind caregiving, the barriers that keep us from talking openly about death, and the unexpected ways grief can shape us into more connected, more alive humans. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by caregiving, uncertain about end-of-life choices, or simply hungry for a more compassionate world, this conversation is for you.

Brand new season, Season 7, will begin in December 2025, so make sure you’re subscribed on Apple Podcast so you’re notified when the episode drops!

▶️ Learn more about our host:

Website - https://lisakeefauver.com/

Substack - https://afgowithlisakeefauver.substack.com/

▶️ Learn more about our guests:

Hui-Wen Sato - https://heartofnursing.blog/

Dr. Sunita Puri - https://sunitapuri.com/

Lisa Pahl - https://thedeathdeck.com

▶️ Learn more about our non-profit collaborators for this special episode here:

Medicinal Media - https://www.medicinalmedia.com/

Unlikely Collaborators - https://www.unlikelycollaborators.com/

➡️ Themes:

narrative therapy, grief, storytelling, healthcare, identity, palliative care, uncertainty, empathy, mental health, loss, end-of-life care, emotional toll, family dynamics, good death, healing, hospice, compassion

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