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Kat and Phoebe discuss extruding our intestines (or not) in the wake of the election, and the history and future of woke media.

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'Challah for Ceasefire'?: Phoebe Maltz Bovy on watching women's media walk the political tightrope

Kat urges artists not “to allow Donald Trump to live rent-free in our heads like some sort of perverse anti-muse”: 

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