The biggest growth bottleneck in property management isn’t people, time, or tech.

It’s capacity—and most PMs are short on it.  That's why the most successful property management companies today are no longer just hiring people... they're hiring AI Agents.

That is just one of the big takeaways Jay Berube- executive coach, BetterWHO co-founder, and AI Expert- and Vendoroo's Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, had after 3 days in Colorado for NARPM Broker/Owner.

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, they catch up after the conference and break down all their takeaways around the current state of AI in property management going into Q2 2025.

You’ll learn:

🧠 Why the “more growth = more staff” belief is being challenged
 ⚙️ How AI maintenance coordination is transforming team structure
 📋 What Betty the AI Agent as a Coach taught us about property management SOP automation (and sanity)
 📈 Why AI-certified team members hit the ground running
 👨‍👩‍👧  Why capacity building for property managers is the new growth engine
 💡 How PMs are using agentic AI to reclaim their owner relationships

Jay nails it better: “AI isn’t here to replace people. It’s here to let people show up where they matter most.”

🎧 Tune in for a future-forward conversation about building teams, creating space, and redefining ROI in property management.

🌟 Stay Connected with Us:
 
🤝 Connect with Jay Berube on LinkedIn
🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

Chapters:

01:28  The Trust Gap That Makes or Breaks AI Strategy
03:55   How One Year of AI Outpaced the Last Ten
06:12 The New Definition of Profit in Property Management
08:24  Agentic AI as the Last Hire You’ll Ever Need
10:46 The Fusion Org Chart That’s Replacing the 150-Door PM Model
12:01 Why the “Do It All” Mentality is Quietly Burning Out PMs
14:42 Meet Betty: The AI Coach That Ends ‘Ask Susan’ Forever
15:42 This Chatbot Replaces Your SOP Binder
17:21 Turn Any Hire Into an AI-Native in Just 16 Hours
19:18 Capacity Unlock That Reframes Efficiency Forever
21:43 How One PM Cut Maintenance to 30 Minutes a Day
24:56 How AI is Rewriting the Most Dreaded Call in Real Estate
26:04 The Shift from Buying Tools to Hiring Solutions
28:01 AI Agent That 76% of PMs Would Hire Today

The days of needing a Fortune 500 budget to build AI tools are over. Now, any PM can build a chatbot or custom agent in a weekend.

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez breaks down a game-changing conversation between Peter Lohmann and Wolfgang Croskey—and adds a third lens you need to hear: the builder’s POV from inside the AI engine room.

This episode dives deep into how property managers can stop fearing AI and start using it to become more human, more visible, and more trusted than ever before.

You’ll hear:

💡 Why the real threat isn’t AI—it’s closed platforms and outdated SaaS models
🤖 How PMs can use agentic AI to serve more doors without sacrificing personal touch
🧠 What it means to shift from workflow building to intelligence designing
📞 And why owners don’t want help desks—they want advisors

This episode is for property managers ready to build custom AI agents into their real estate operations.

🎧 Listen now and learn why AI won’t replace PMs—because it’s making the best ones irreplaceable.

🌟 Stay Connected with Us:
 
🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

Chapters:

01:28 The 3 PM Mindsets: Operator, Tinkerer, Builder
03:55 Why Locking PMs into One Platform Is the Fastest Way to Lose Them
06:12 SaaS Is Facing an Existential Threat from AI Agents
08:24 Coaches Aren’t Building Workflows Anymore—They’re Building Intelligence
10:46 What Used to Cost $200K Now Costs $20—And You Can Build It This Weekend
12:01 Voice AI Shouldn’t Do Everything. It Should Know When Not To.
14:42 AI as Your Assistant—Not Your Identity
15:42 Owners Want Phone Call Culture—Not Help Desks
17:21 How AI Frees PMs to Inject Value

Caution looks smart—but what happens when playing it safe is the fastest way to fall behind?

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Stacey Salyer — Property Management Strategist, acquisition advisor, and founder of a remote-first PMC — breaks down why early adopters win bigger and why most property management companies are scaling backwards. From outdated org charts to hiring the wrong roles (and doing it too fast), Stacey shares how she built for flexibility, exited successfully, and now coaches other PMCs on how to futureproof a property management company.

This is a full-on mindset shift for PMs who want to stop reacting and start building from the future back–with modern org charts, remote teams, and AI that supports trust, not just efficiency.

You’ll learn:

🧠 Why “working in the present” is the biggest trap in property management
 👥 The radical team role Stacey would hire first (hint: it’s not a coordinator)
 📉 How to eliminate burnout by fixing your Monday—not your software
 🧠 Why trust and experience—not EBITDA—drove her successful exit
 🤖 How to use AI to automate maintenance workflows without losing the human touch
💡 What future-ready org charts actually look like (and why they scare traditional PMs)
 🎯 Why community-driven PMC growth models are the new growth strategy—and the best retention tool you’re not using

As Stacey says: “If you're working in the present, you're behind.”

🎧 Listen now to learn how to rewire your PMC for the next era — with fewer bottlenecks, more clarity, and a team built to scale what matters.

🌟 Stay Connected with Us:
 
🤝 Connect with Stacey Salyer on LinkedIn
📘 Grab Stacey's PropTech & AI Blueprint
🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website 

Chapters:
00:00 From Zero Credit to Remote CEO
01:28 Why Most PMC Owners Feel Stuck (And What They’re Missing)
03:55 Why Strategy Starts With “What’s Coming”
06:12 The Remote-First Bet That Changed Everything
08:24 How Stacey Bought a PMC During COVID—And Made It Work
10:46 The Monday Fix That Transformed Teams
12:01 What Real Buyers Evaluate During Acquisitions—beyond EBITDA
14:42 Why Being Told You’re “Crazy” Is Often Your Best Signal To Keep Going
17:21 AI Isn’t a Tool—It’s a Team Member Now
19:18 Using AI to Reclaim Time and Rebuild Human Connection
21:43 The ‘Community Builder’ Role That Doesn’t Exist Yet (But Should)
24:56 Why Your Ops Lead Should Be a Therapist, Not a Technician
26:04 Making Even The Biggest Service Issues Smooth and Drama-free.
28:01 Get Out of the Property Management Business - Get In The WOW Business
30:44 High-Impact Way for PMs to Create Content Without Cringing
35:02The Personality Behind the Community Model

Major question: How to Turn Volatility into Visibility?

In this mini-episode of the Property Management Frame Breakers Podcast, host Pablo Gonzalez explains why right now—amid stock market chaos—is the best time for property managers to go loud (and how AI is the tool that makes it possible).

This episode reframes the crash as a moment of massive opportunity—if you’re willing stop being invisible and start using AI to actually to be seen, tell your story and build local trust fast.

This is about being the calm in the storm and becoming the go-to guide your market needs.

🎯 Want help putting it into action? Pablo is opening up a free 6-month Content Mastermind for property managers ready to show up, build visibility, and scale using AI. All you have to do is give feedback on Vendoroo once a month.

📩 To join the Content Mastermind, email: [email protected]
🌐 Or schedule a demo at: https://vendoroo.ai

Stay Connected with Us:

🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

🎧 Listen now and learn how to turn today’s market pain into your next big growth move.

Chapters:
01:36 The Stock Market Is Broken — And That’s Your Opening
04:44 Marketing to Pain, Not Just Potential
05:58 Storytelling Beats Spreadsheets
07:58 What “Being Visible” Actually Looks Like for PMs
08:01 A 12-Week Content Plan You Can Start Next Week
10:21 What PMs Are Doing with Their Free Time (Thanks to AI)
14:21 Why Now Is the Best Time to Market—Period

What if the reason your team isn’t scaling… is because they don’t believe in what you’re building?

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Jason Hull — founder of DoorGrow — reveals why most property management teams are set up to fail from day one. From hiring misaligned people to leading with the wrong values (or too many of them), Jason breaks down the hidden dysfunction inside PM companies and what it really takes to build a team that owns outcomes, not just tasks.

This is a blueprint for rewiring your culture around clarity, accountability, and belief — whether you manage 60 doors or 600.

You’ll learn:

👥 The “Believers vs. Hiders” test that reveals who should be on your team
🧲 Why polarity attracts the right people (and repels the wrong ones)
💸 The real reason money doesn’t motivate your team — and what does
🎯 How to align your personal “why” with your company’s hiring and sales
📊 Why accountability systems fail — and how DoorGrow OS fixes that
📍 The single mindset shift that turns operators from blockers to builders
🔁 What Jason means by “transactional leadership” — and how to evolve past it

Jason puts it best: ““You either have believers on your team… or you have hiders.”

🎧 Listen now to learn how to build a team that thinks, acts, and believes — and why culture is the ultimate growth lever in property management.

🌟 Stay Connected with Us:
 
🤝 Connect with Jason Hull on LinkedIn
🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website 

Chapters:

00:38 Jason Hull and the Beat of His Own Drum
02:28 Conflict, Debate, and the ENTP Mindset
05:31 The Inclusion by Exclusion Principle
06:27 Radical Agency and the Fence Testing Mentality
06:43 Relationships, Compatibility, and Personal Growth
08:27 The Stagnant Puddle vs. the Raging River
11:00 Believers vs. Hiders in Team Culture
11:48 Economic Score and the Money Motivation Myth
19:49  The Core Value Trap: When Everything Matters, Nothing Does
26:04 Negative-Active vs. Positive-Active: The Client Mindset Gap
33:32  Leadership Sequence: Vulnerability to Transformation
44:15 The Blockbuster vs. Netflix Moment in Property Management
44:46 Wall Street, Millennials, and the Rise of AI
52:44  The Marshmallow Test: Why Iterators Win
56:18 Vendoroo and the Shift to Outcome Ownership in Maintenance
56:46 Unchecked Operators Will Invent the Wrong Problems
59:37 Planning Rhythm and Strategic Prioritization with DoorGrow OS
1:00:06  Accountability in Action: The Red No or Green Yes System
1:05:14 Business as the Ultimate Personal Development Journey
1:06:01 Jason’s Business Lens: The Six Core Functions of DoorGrow OS

Breaking the Frame: Transform Your Quarterly Goals with Bets

In this episode of the Property Management Frame Breakers Podcast, host Pablo Gonzalez shares an innovative approach to setting and achieving quarterly goals by using a 'bets' framework instead of traditional KPIs. 

Pablo dives into Vendoroo's recent success, explaining how this mindset has led to three consecutive 'frame breaking' quarters. 

He outlines:

- his own successful bets from the previous quarter 
- the impact they had
- how you can apply this strategy to achieve your own Q2 goals. 


Additionally, Pablo announces the launch of a new mastermind group aimed at boosting content creation among property managers. Join Pablo for valuable insights, strategies, and an opportunity to elevate your business in the upcoming quarter.

Stay Connected with Us:

🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Frame Breaking Quarters
00:58 Welcome to the Property Management Frame Breakers Podcast
01:32 The Concept of Bets vs Goals
04:21 Examples of Successful Bets
11:05 Applying the Bet Structure to Your Business
12:35 Join the Q2 Content Mastermind
14:30 Conclusion and Call to Action

What if the next law passed could kill your revenue—and you didn’t even see it coming?

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Alex Zweydoff, government affairs powerhouse and rising voice in Florida property management, to unpack one of the most overlooked risks in the industry: legislation.

Whether it’s lead-based paint fines up to $37,500 per day, the slow-motion Section 8 collapse, or squatter loopholes that cost PMs months of rent, Alex is at the front lines—meeting with lawmakers, fighting for clarity, and sounding the alarm.

Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:
✅ The sleeper risk that could bankrupt small PM businesses overnight
✅ Why squatter laws are actually a revenue lever (if you advocate for the right one)
✅ The real reason Section 8 is broken—and how to navigate it anyway
✅ How to get involved without flying to D.C. (and why you probably should)
✅ The "EPA Trap": how a single missing initial could cost you $25K
✅ Why AI and advocacy are two sides of the same coin—and both are about owning outcomes

Alex shares his playbook for staying ahead, staying relevant, and making a difference—not just in your business, but in your community, your market, and your industry.

This episode is a rally cry: The future doesn’t just belong to the most efficient operator. It belongs to the one who shows up, builds relationships, and shapes the rules.

🔗 Listen now and learn how to protect your business—and reshape the future of property management.

🌟 Stay Connected Alex and Vendoroo:

Connect with Alex Zweydoff on LinkedIn 
🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Context Shifts and Regulatory Changes
00:21 Meet Alex Zweydoff: Regulatory Expert
00:39 Podcast Background and Summit Insights
00:53 The Impact of Regulatory Changes on Property Management
01:24 Welcome to the Podcast
01:58 Casual Conversation with Alex
02:22 The Changing Landscape of Property Management
03:27 Legislative Changes and Their Effects
05:05 Government Advocacy and Property Management
10:12 The Importance of Being at the Table
18:44 Section 8 Reform and Fair Housing
21:28 EPA Regulations and Lead-Based Paint
26:33 Navigating Initial Confusion and Lack of Guidance
27:03 Importance of Transparency and Vendor Collaboration
27:36 Building Relationships and Local Advocacy
28:06 Understanding and Influencing Legislation
28:14 Revitalizing Downtowns Post-COVID
28:53 Balancing Time and Effort in Advocacy
29:49 Getting Involved Locally and Voting
30:53 Respect and Practical Voting Advice
33:24 Integrating Advocacy into Daily Life
38:44 The Role of Technology in Property Management
40:08 The Impact of AI and Technology Adoption
48:38 Transparency and Trust in Client Relationships
50:38 Final Thoughts on Getting Involved and Making a Difference

What do 200-mile races and property management have in common? More than you'd think.

In this episode of the Frame Breakers Podcast, Tony Cline discusses the various facets of transformation, both personal and professional. From his journey from serious illness to becoming an ultra endurance athlete to building a successful property management business, Tony shares his approach to change and growth. 

The conversation dives into the importance of vulnerability, surrounding oneself with the right people, and the strategic shift from being an entrepreneur to becoming a business owner. Tony also highlights his unique approach to event marketing and community building, emphasizing the significance of shared missions and personal passions in driving business success. 

A must-listen for anyone looking to break new ground in their personal and professional life.

You'll learn:

🎯 Why most property managers are stuck in a job they can’t quit—and how to escape that trap.
🧠 The invisible first step to scaling: rewriting the mental movie you're living in.
🛠️ The 3 inflection points that separate hustlers from true business owners.
❤️ Why core values aren’t a poster—they’re your team’s decision-making compass.
👥 Why your “real client” becomes your team, not your owners.
💡 Why vulnerability is the secret weapon for building real community and culture.
🧗‍♂️ How transformational events (like hiking rim-to-rim through the Grand Canyon) foster the connections that grow great companies.

And of course, Tony and Pablo dive into what AI means for the next era of property management—and why the winners won’t be the ones with the biggest portfolios, but the ones who remove themselves from day-to-day operations fastest.

“Most people build a business without ever asking what they want out of it. If you don’t write the movie, you can’t play the lead.”

🎧 Tune in now for a frame-breaking conversation about mindset, mentorship, scaling, and building a business you love.

🔗 Stay Connected with Tony & Vendoroo:

🎙️ Connect with Tony Cline on LinkedIn
🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

Chapters: 
00:00 Introduction to Entrepreneurship and Personal Growth
00:08 Meet Tony Cline: From Health Scare to Ultra Athlete
00:29 Transforming Property Management Businesses
00:41 Three Types of Entrepreneurial Transformation
01:07 Welcome to the Property Management Frame Breakers Podcast
02:18 Tony Cline's Journey: Accidental Entrepreneur to Business Owner
04:00 The Importance of Intentionality in Business
04:41 Breaking Free from the Entrepreneurial Trap
06:55 The Role of Vulnerability and the Right People
14:46 Creating a Vision and Core Values for Your Business
19:02 The Power of Core Values in Business Decisions
28:42 The Importance of Having the Right Crew
31:15 Approaching Mentors for Guidance
31:36 Framework for Asking for Help
32:24 Transitioning from Star Player to Head Coach
33:15 Setting High Expectations and Accountability
34:10 Providing the Right Tools and Training
35:28 Building a Championship Team
37:54 Aligning Team with Vision and Culture
40:00 The Importance of Strategic Thinking
44:22 Finding Personal Passion and Purpose
47:52 The Impact of AI on Property Management
56:40 Event Marketing and Community Building
01:03:29 Concluding Thoughts and Compliments

Join Pablo Gonzalez, chief evangelist at Vendoroo, as he unveils a groundbreaking moment in property management—a technological revolution akin to Roger Banister's four-minute mile achievement. 

Pablo introduces PMROO and ResiROO two AI agents designed to transform maintenance coordination and resident interactions, capable of learning and improving through natural language coaching. 

Explore how these AI innovations offer a scalable, reliable, and empathetic solution, enabling property management teams to focus on critical human interactions. Discover the future of automated solutions that could redefine the property management business model. 

Tune in for insights and a demo invitation at vendoroo.ai

🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn

Chapters: 

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:56 The Banister Breakthrough in Property Management
02:11 Introducing PM RU and Resi RU
02:39 How PM RU and Resi RU Work
03:31 The Impact of AI Agents
05:20 Future of Property Management with AI
06:52 Conclusion and Call to Action

Most property managers don’t start their business with an exit plan—but what if that’s the key to long-term success?

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Nick Molina, an investor and business owner who has built, bought, and sold multiple companies, including in property management. They break down what makes a property management business valuable, scalable, and sellable—even if you never plan to sell.

Nick shares insider knowledge on:
✅ The rise of entrepreneurs through acquisition (ETA) and why property managers are in demand.
✅ The biggest red flags that lower your company’s value—and how to fix them.
✅ The power of removing yourself from daily operations (and why it’s crucial for growth).
✅ Technology vs. relationships—why the best businesses strike the right balance.
✅ The future of the industry and why some property managers will get left behind.

🔗 Listen now and learn how to build a property management business that gives you more freedom, more profit, and more options for the future.

🎙️ Connect with Nick on LinkedIn
🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 
💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 
🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website 

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Property Management Sales
00:13 Meet Nick Molina: The ETA Guy
00:43 Understanding the New Breed of Buyers
01:10 The Importance of Mindset in Property Management Sales
02:48 The Changing Landscape of Property Management
03:22 Defining Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA)
03:32 The Great Wealth Transfer and Its Impact
05:41 Private Equity vs. ETA Entrepreneurs
09:56 Preparing Your Property Management Business for Sale
18:42 Qualifying Buyers and Ensuring Legacy
28:10 The Role of AI in Property Management
29:06 Personal Insights and Final Thoughts
29:34 Reflecting on Initial Hesitations
29:43 Importance of Understanding Company Culture
30:13 Taking Risks with High Integrity Sellers
30:51 Technology's Role in Business Efficiency
33:03 Lessons from Kodak and Blockbuster
35:24 Adopting Technology in Property Management
44:17 The Future of Property Management
53:08 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections