(Part 2) You ever wake up after a night out and think, “Well, that probably wasn’t my proudest moment”? Emily Lynn Paulson did that—only it involved a blackout, a hotel doorman, EMTs, and a luxury car she technically “earned” by selling skincare. (Yes, this is a sobriety podcast. Yes, this episode is delicious.) Emily and I get into what happens after you quit drinking—like the surprising ways your values shift, the shady side of MLM life and how sometimes you just need to peace out of a community you built from scratch. Oh, and there’s swearing. Because come on. If you’ve ever been the wine mom, the boss babe, or the one throwing up in your inspirational Bling Suite—this one’s for you.

Emily is the author of Hey Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing

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