In this episode, Deb and Julie discuss the shift that is taking place within organizations across all industries, dismantling the belief that upward mobility is the only or "right" objective to have a successful and meaningful career.

About your guest host, Deb Porter:
Deb Porter is the CEO and founder of HOLD (Hearing Out Life Drama), an organization that listens to individuals without judgment and provides advice only when asked in a safe, confidential environment. Deb has an MDiv (Masters in Divinity) specializing in care and counseling from the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary.  She brings her education and relevant life experience as a hospital chaplain, spousal caregiver (now divorced), former homeschool parent, and funeral arranger. She ensures that regardless of which listener on her team you meet with, you feel heard.
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About your guest, Julie Winkle Giulioni :
Julie Winkle Giulioni is a champion for workplace growth and development and helps executives and leaders optimize talent and potential within their organizations. One of Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 speakers, she’s the author of Promotions Are So Yesterday: Redefine Career Development. Help Employees Thrive and the co-author of the international bestseller, Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go: Career Conversations Organizations Need and Employees Want, translated into seven languages. 

Julie is a regular columnist for Training Industry Magazine and SmartBrief and contributes articles on leadership, career development, and workplace trends to numerous publications including The Economist. You can keep up with Julie through her blog, LinkedIn and Twitter.

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