The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer

Reject the Premise Part 3


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Jethro Jones on Breaking the Robot Principal Playbook

The Ruckus Report

Quick take: Most school leaders are trained to lead like emotionless robots. But students aren't spreadsheets and staff don't need a boss with a checklist — they need a human being. Time to reject the premise that logic alone should run our schools.

Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker

Jethro Jones, 2017 NASSP Digital Principal of the Year, is a former principal from Fairbanks, Alaska, and the host of Transformative Principal, where he interviews leaders from around the world who are reimagining K-12 education. He's the founder of the Transformative Leadership Summit and author of SchoolX: How principals can design a transformative school experience for students, teachers, parents – and themselves!

Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨

In this episode, Jethro Jones challenges traditional education paradigms:

Key Insight #1: Emotions Are Your Leadership Superpower

  • What's broken: The robot principal mentality that emotions should be locked out of work
  • The shift: Embrace emotional intelligence as the very thing that makes leadership work — connection
  • Impact: Leaders build authentic relationships instead of being terminators hunting for data points

Key Insight #2: From Sage on Stage to Compass Among Us

  • What's broken: Teachers controlling every learning moment as the "sage on the stage"
  • The shift: Become a "compass among us" — pointing to true north while students navigate their own path
  • Impact: Students take ownership of learning while teachers focus on what computers can't do: the human connection

Key Insight #3: Discipline Matrices Are BS

  • What's broken: One-size-fits-all discipline charts that treat every situation identically
  • The shift: Use the smallest possible intervention that changes behavior — sometimes just a look
  • Impact: Fewer office referrals, more authentic relationships, and students who actually learn from mistakes
Quotable Ruckus

"If AI can crushed everything else, what's left is our emotions and our spirituality and the metaphysical stuff that makes us different than computers." – Jethro Jones

Your Do School Different Challenge

Ready to implement these ideas? Start here:

  • Tomorrow: Check in with someone by asking "How are you?" instead of "How did your students do on that assessment?"
  • This Month: Replace one discipline matrix consequence with a restorative conversation
  • This Semester: Audit your teaching staff — how many are still stuck in "sage on the stage" mode?
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