In a first for the podcast this lovely couple provide an incredible insight into what goes on for birth parents, how they kept going (and together) despite being riddled with emotion and how our suffering connects us. We explore the deep insights they had along the way that have shifted their focus on to Michael.  Because relationships start with us. How we are. Doing our own work makes us better.

Find out more about their book and download it free:

 https://bertauski.com/expectations/

https://www.amazon.com/Expectations-Adoption-Story-Bertauski-Tony/dp/1951432169

Guests and the host are not (unless mentioned) licensed pscyho-therapists and speak from their own opinion only. Seek qualified advice if you need help.