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Religion, spirituality and eating animals | Kameron Waters & Kip Andersen


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Episode #308. How would Jesus kill an animal? Join me as I sit down with filmmakers Kip Andersen and Kameron Waters to discuss their position on how religion and veganism intersect. Whether you are religious or not, there are many interesting points raised to reflect on further.

In their new documentary Christspiracy, Kip and Kameron pose the question: is there a spiritual way to kill an animal? In this episode, they argue what they believe to be the accurate interpretation of what the Bible says about animal liberation, taking us on a journey of what the concept of dominion truly means. We discuss a 2000-year-old cover-up, whether eating meat as a Christian is hypocritical, the truth about regenerative agriculture, and much more.


Specifically, we cover:

  • Intro (00:00)
  • Unveiling the Truth Behind Religious Misinterpretations (06:06)
  • Exploring the Daniel Fast: A Christian's Journey to Plant-Based Eating (13:43)
  • Connecting the Dots: The Nazarenes, Mistranslations, and Jesus' Controversial Temple Actions (19:07)
  • The Mistranslation of Dominion and Its Impact on Western World Beliefs (25:38)
  • Rethinking Christianity's Relationship with Animal Consumption (31:50)
  • Exploring the Intersection of Spirituality, Ethics, and Filmmaking: A Journey of Discovery (43:52)
  • How the Animal Agriculture Industry Influences Religious Views on Animal Consumption (50:57)
  • Is It Possible to be Spiritual and Consume Animal Products? (1:00:47)
  • Regenerative Farming: A Closer Look at Animal Welfare and Ethics (1:05:07)
  • Examining the Contradictions in Joel Salatin's Ethical Farming Practices (1:12:27)
  • How Different Religions Approach the Consumption and Killing of Animals (1:25:51)
  • Making "Christspiracy": How to Create an Engaging Film About Killing 70 Billion Animals (1:33:42)
  • Outro (1:39:27)

  • Learn more about Christspiracy at https://www.christspiracy.com/. Connect with the Christspiracy community on InstagramFacebookYouTube, and TikTok.


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