Trent Payne is a London-born award-winning creative who is currently the creative lead at TouchNote. During his varied career, he has run a thriving creative studio, and worked in-house and at leading agencies, working on campaigns for the likes of MTV, Nike and Warner Brothers. Here, we talk about what it was like back in the early '90s as a black student hoping to make it into that creative world – and we look at how things may or might not have changed in nearly three decades. We also talk about the differences between freelancing, working in-house and agency side. This is a frank and open discussion about the changing creative industries, unconventional paths, diversity, and the power of speaking up.