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The Democrat from California has held the highest governmental position of any woman in U.S. history and is one half of Washington’s hottest power couple — “Chuck and Nancy.” She talked with Carl Hulse about protecting one of her signature policy victories, the Affordable Care Act, as well as the 2018 election, her love of chocolate and more.
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The Democrat from California has held the highest governmental position of any woman in U.S. history and is one half of Washington’s hottest power couple — “Chuck and Nancy.” She talked with Carl Hulse about protecting one of her signature policy victories, the Affordable Care Act, as well as the 2018 election, her love of chocolate and more.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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