My guest today is someone whose work has shaped the very code of modern biology, and whose vision continues to ripple across fields as vast as genomics, synthetic biology, age reversal, and artificial intelligence.

Dr. George Church is a a true pioneer, Professor of Genetics at Harvard Medical School,

a molecular engineer, chemist and serial entrepreneur as the co-founder of more than 50 biotech companies. He has helped invent many of the technologies that now define the genomic era, from CRISPR optimization to DNA data storage, and he was one of the first humans to ever publicly share his full genome and medical history.

In this conversation, we explore the edge where science meets spirit.

We talk about synthetic biology as a modern myth, DNA as a vessel of intelligence, and what it means to engineer life with intention. We dive into radical transparency, longevity research, AI collaboration, and the philosophical gravity of rewriting the arc of aging.

This episode is not just about technology. It is about becoming.

It is about asking: What does it mean to choose our evolution, consciously, ethically, and with awe.

Episode highlights:

00:04:30 – Sleep states and engineered serendipity: tapping creativity through unconscious rhythms

00:06:30 – Synthetic biology as a modern myth: Promethean fire and the sacred aesthetic of science

00:08:30 – DNA as memory, medium, and myth: encoding images in bacterial genomes

00:10:00 – Is DNA a vessel of intelligence beyond biology?

00:13:30 – Preserving culture in encoded DNA: who might decode it in the far future?

00:16:00 – Are we alone in the universe? Dr. Church’s speculative yet grounded view

00:18:30 – What should we preserve for the next million years? The humility of legacy

00:21:00 – DNA as sacred text: what it teaches us about identity, ancestry, and consciousness

00:24:00 – Radical transparency: the Personal Genome Project and sharing his own genome

00:29:00 – Rethinking consent, privacy, and research ethics in human genomics

00:32:00 – From printing press to gene sequencers: the dawn of programmable biology

00:33:30 – From slowing aging to redesigning it: reprogramming human cells and organs

00:36:00 – How smarter gene, cell, and organ therapies could surpass pharmaceuticals

00:40:00 – Personalized vs. generic medicine: the case for affordable global health

00:43:30 – Aging as a treatable condition: tackling multiple pathways at once

00:46:30 – Ethical and spiritual questions at the threshold of biological reinvention

00:49:00 – The risks of artificial general intelligence vs. the promise of scientific AI

00:52:30 – Why narrow scientific AI (like protein design) offers real-world breakthroughs

00:54:30 – Will synthetic intelligence ever hold ethical responsibility?

00:55:00 – Final reflections: safety, accessibility, and helping humanity fulfill its potential

Resources mentioned:

Websites

Wyss Institute: https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/core-faculty/george-church/

Harvard Department of Genetics: https://icgd.bwh.harvard.edu/team/george-church

Biophysics at Harvard: https://biophysics.fas.harvard.edu/people/george-m-church

Church Lab: https://arep.med.harvard.edu/gmc/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAae_vhiy2Qp-_GpV4FHll3Xxvuv1h1b7qgeRA1-Cz9jHTJrmnWlMH0GEVbBDgg_aem_-ujXtOnt6CpbGBHRC-P8Bg

Book

Regenesis: How Synthetic Biology Will Reinvent Nature and Ourselves

https://www.amazon.com/Regenesis-Synthetic-Biology-Reinvent-Ourselves/dp/0465075703

Social Media

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-church-2b86301/